Newson/Lewis AGAIN ! *completed*

[Langdon-Northamp]

Yes we realize that she would have had to have been 106 years........BUT I wouldn't take any notice of all  the ages that you have found, because they are all wrong, even names were wrong.
I wish I could discuss this on a easier forum, as there is just too much to discuss.
I have also found a KITE marrying a BLINKHORNE, in nz, which adds to the marvels of wonder.
Are you actually connected to this family history or are you researching for John?
Everytime Sarah had a child, she was a differenct age....eg sometimes her young child had a younger mother then her older child.  It is a real scramble.  Do you have more information to do with Sarah's sisters and brothers?  Thomas died in Wanganui and Robert is buried in Palmerston NOrth at Kelvin Grove, same as his sister Sarah......re Sarah Dawson.

[Langdon-Northamp]

My Late Courins wife always said that Sarah look a lot older than 96 (I think) when she died in 1964.
She was very old..........maybe older than 96 but going by quoted ages, not 106....
All lies along the way I think.  Her name varied also, and Charley boy was the informant of the births.

[Lucy2]

So, can anyone suggest any way to trace the origins of Alfred and Jane Lewis/Newson  ....

NEWSON

The following information relates to the NEWSON family group who departed London per the "La Hogue" on 20 February 1874 - arriving at Wellington, 26 May 1874.
[They were, namely - Alfred NEWSON (36 - bc 1838) Place of Origin: Suffolk, / Sarah E. (33 - bc 1841) / Sarah (15 - bc 1859) / Robert (4) / Susannah (3) and Alfred NEWSON (aged 4 months). ]

Hi John,

What follows, (and it's lengthy  ), won't help with determining why the LEWIS name was adopted - but will show that the Alfred NEWSON above had the birth name of SMITH ... and that he also (maybe briefly ?) masqueraded as WEBB, (which was the married surname of his future wife, Sarah Elizabeth).      

So, will begin with their marriage in London -- which took place just three days before they set sail for NZ !

Church of St. James the Great - Bethnal Green (Middlesex)

17 February 1874

Alfred Newson SMITH - bachelor - full age - occupation:  Carpenter - residing at Bethnal Green
Father:   Alfred NEWSON - Carpenter

Sarah WEBB - full age - Widow - residing Bethnal Green
Father:  Thomas STEVENSON - Basket Maker

Witnesses:  Charlotte STEVENSON and ? Lavinia ? (looks like) EDWARD (EDWARDS?)  

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[Lucy2]

Alfred NEWSON

[I haven't managed to find a marriage for his parents as yet. ] 
His birth registration (at Suffolk) as Alfred Newson SMITH can be found at Free BMD and there is also this baptism record.

Alfred Newson SMITH
Birthdate :  29 December 1837

Baptised at Theberton, Suffolk, ENG. on 19 August 1838

Mother's Name :   Betsy SMITH
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Alfred's brother, Matthew was born on 28 April 1840 and was also baptised at Theberton, his surname though was recorded as NEWSON.

NEWSON - Matthew - bapt. 7 June 1840, Theberton, Suffolk
Parents:   Alfred NEWSON and Betsey

[Betsey appears to have died sometime after 1853 :   Later records (census and baptisms), show other offspring of this union [details later] ... and that Alfred NEWSON (senior) had a 2nd "wife" and many more children. ]
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[Lucy2]

Alfred NEWSON (Alfred Newson SMITH) and Sarah WEBB :


1871 - Essex - West Ham - Parish of Holy Trinity, Barking Road
- # 73 Woodstock Street

WEBB - Alfred - head - married - 34 - Carpenter & joiner - b. Suffolk - Theberton

Sarah WEBB* - wife - 30 - married - born Middlesex - Shadwell
* In the "Rank, profession, occupation" column alongside Sarah's name is written, "his wife".   

Sarah WEBB - dau - 12 - scholar -b. Middlesex - Limehouse
Leonard WEBB** - son - 8 - b. Shadwell
Mary WEBB - dau - 6 - b. Middlesex - Bow
Robert WEBB - son - 2 - b. Middlesex - Stepney
Susanna WEBB - dau - aged 11 weeks - b. Essex - West Ham
Sarah STEVENSON*** - mother - 62 - Widow? (looks like) - Basket Maker's wife - b. Shadwell
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[Notes:  * = It's unusal to see the words "his wife" written separately like that - it's almost as if some further verification was required ?   Of course she wasn't his legal wife until 3 years later.
** = Leonard WEBB ( was the son of Sarah by her first marriage.  He remained in England. (Further details to come.)
*** = Sarah STEVENSON was the mother of Sarah WEBB. ]
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[Lucy2]

Just veering off course slightly with info that may be of interest to LANGDON researchers ?

1871 Census - Essex - West Ham

Sarah WEBB - dau - 12 - scholar - b. Middlesex - Limehouse [bc 1859 ]
Leonard WEBB - son - 8 - born Middlesex - Shadwell

[In the household of Alfred WEBB (bc 1838) and Sarah WEBB (bc 1841), his wife.]

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Although the head of the household in which above children were residing in 1871 is shown as Alfred WEBB, all other information given for him, suggests he is Alfred NEWSON (a.k.a. Alfred Newson SMITH).

This Alfred NEWSON was not though the birth father of Sarah WEBB (bc 1859) or her brother, Leonard WEBB (bc 1863).

Sarah WEBB (bc 1841) (a.k.a. Sarah Elizabeth WEBB, nee STEVENSON) was previously married to William James WEBB :

Tower Hamlets - Parish of St. George in the East
Marriage Date : 5 October 1857

William James WEBB - full age - bach - Fellowship Porter
living at 3 John Street
Father:  Benjamin WEBB - Fellowship Porter

Sarah Elizabeth STEVENSON - full age - spinster
living at 6 John Place
Father:  Thomas STEVENSON - Basket Maker
The bride signed X = her mark.

Witnesses:  James HOLLAND and Mary Ann DUKE (signed X = her mark)
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Children of William James WEBB and Sarah Elizabeth (nee STEVENSON) .... see next post >




 

[Lucy2]

Children of William James WEBB & Sarah Elizabeth (nee STEVENSON) :

All baptisms at Tower Hamlets - Stepney - St. Thomas

- Sarah Elizabeth WEBB
Born :  9 November 1858
Baptised :  5 December 1858
D/o William James WEBB & Sarah Elizabeth WEBB of 4 St Anne's Row, Mary Street, Limehouse
Occupation (Father) - Fellowship Porter
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- William James WEBB*
Baptised:  19 August 1860
Parents:  William James and Sarah ELizabeth WEBB of 4 Newcastle Place - Occ: Fellowship Porter
[* There is a burial record which may relate to this child - William James WEBB - 8 years {bc 1860} - Parish of Twickenham, St Mary the Virgin - buried 17 September 1868 (Address:  Back Lane ) ?? ]
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- Leonard Richard WEBB
Baptised :  19 April 1863
S/o William James and Sarah Elizabeth WEBB of Shadwell - Occupation:  Porter
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[Lucy2]

WEBB

1861 - Middlesex - Shadwell
- # 4 Pike's?  Hill

WEBB

- William J. - Head - 21 - marr. - Fellowship Porter - b. Shadwell
- Sarah E. - wife - 21 - b. Bethnal Green ?
- Sarah E. - dau - 2 b. Limehouse
- William J. - son - 8 months - born Mile End
[Georgiana RIDDLE - 18 - Servant - b. Wapping and George FABER - 18 - Lodger - Fellowship Porter - born N/K ... are in same household. ]

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I have info for Sarah STEVENSON (WEBB / NEWSON) - her parents and siblings, which I'll add at a later time.
 
   ~   Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi John

Have much more to come for family of Alfred NEWSON (b. 1838, Suffolk).
Need to take a break right now, so will continue tomorrow.

  ~  Lu