Newson/Lewis AGAIN ! *completed*

[Lucy2]

Mmm ... I'm of the view that there is likely an error re: details of plot purchaser.   

*  Jane LEWIS is only 30 ... has six children and a "husband" ... her death might have been expected, but where does she get the money, and why would she purchase her own plot  ?

Is Jane LEWIS's mother present in New Zealand at any time ??

There is this death  ... might be worth checking to see where it was registered ?

1897 - SHANNON - Sarah - aged 73 years   (bc 1824)

 

[johnbarr]

Hi Lu,

Yes, good point.
Fortunately, Napier Council sent me their full record entry.
I suspect that some details have been entered into a convenient 'space' rather than under a correct heading. So...........
Purchaser  D/O W & S Nee Scott.
Clergyman BORN IN IRELAND.
Funeral Dir note  IN NZ 13 YRS. 3M, 3F.

NZSG details had no headings, just a string of sentences, including those shown above.
I think we can be confident she was d/o William and Sarah Shannon, and discard plot purchaser.

Cannot see the 1897 Sarah Shannon listed on Burial Locator, but following your suggestion, there is another possibility perhaps, Sarah Shannon d 1937 age 84 (bc 1853) at Northern Cem, Dunedin .

John B

[Lucy2]

Cannot see the 1897 Sarah Shannon listed on Burial Locator, but following your suggestion, there is another possibility perhaps, Sarah Shannon d 1937 age 84 (bc 1853) at Northern Cem, Dunedin .

Hi John

This 1937 Sarah SHANNON was a widow, born Scotland, and had been in NZ, 65 years.   Buried with James SHANNON (a native of Canada).

I'll check the microfiche (sometime this week) to see where the 1897 (SHANNON) death was registered.
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Of course it would not have been unusual for Jane to have arrived in NZ without her family.   [Many very young Irish and English girls were shipped to our shores (as parts of various immigration schemes), to address the imbalance of the sexes ... and ultimately to boost the population.]   

~  Lu

 

[johnbarr]

Thanks Lu,
I checked the La Hogue passenger list on the offchance she might have met Alfred there, but not listed.

Yes, have come across quite a few single Irish lasses arriving in NZ in my searches - and very hard to trace them back any further than a passenger list. 

Have confirmed Alfred Lewis/Newson d 1949 is the son of Alfred b 1886.
But confusing !!
From BDM
1949/27673    Newsom [sic] CKA Lewis     Alfred     63Y

From Waikumete
Surname :                        LEWIS
Given Names:                 ALFRED

From Burial Locator
Surname    NEWSON
Given Names    Alfred Lewis

What a tangled tree we weave! 

John B

[Lucy2]

re:  Reply #  14
Alfred NEWSON - (living with a William Henry and Maria NEWSON - Wellington, 1905-06 ) :

Not sure we can cross him off, yet, ....

I think we can now.   

This Alfred NEWSON is mentioned, along with his brothers, in his father's death notice
("Evening Post" - 10 August 1942 -- William Henry NEWSON).

His parents didn't marry until 1886 and his birth was registered under his mother's maiden surname.

1882 - NORRIS - Alfred Hill 
Mother:  Maria      Father:   N/R

Alfred NEWSON moved to Christchurch at some point  - (his first wife and son are buried at Bromley).

Death

1971 - NEWSON - Alfred   -- aged 88 years  (bc 1883)

[Probate record held at Archives NZ, Christchurch : 
NEWSON - Alfred - Christchurch - Retired Salesman - 1971 ]

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi John

I think there is a very good chance that the following may be the arrival of Jane LEWIS (NEWSON) nee SHANNON
   ..... despite the age given on passenger list.   

"Dover Castle"   -- arrived at Auckland - 24 August 1875

SHANNON

*  William - aged 22 - Farmer

*  Jane - 24 - servant

*   Sarah - 18 - servant

Place of origin for all   -- Co. Mayo

The passenger list image can be viewed at FamilySearch (NZ Immigration) :

[It shows the above as a family group -- L 49-10-0 having been paid in total for their fares.]

~  Lu     
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[Lucy2]

SHANNON family per "Dover Castle" - 1875

"In favour" of this being the correct Jane :

--  death (cemetery) record gives Ireland as her birthplace

--  she'd been in NZ for 13 years (@ 1887) est. date of arrival 1874

--  her parents named (on death record) as William and Sarah .... it's very probable she had siblings with these same names 

"Against"   ...

--  age given as 24 years (1875) ... born circa 1851   

But bear in mind that the only "approximate date of birth" you have for Jane (so far), comes from her death record. 

~  Lu

[johnbarr]

Hi Lu,

Once again you have come up with some excellent results 

I'm just trying to fit these new details into the picture and see what can be verified.

This has been a nightmare family, but we all love a challenge, don't we !!

Thank you

John B

[Langdon-Northamp]

Well, what an interesting family!
Alfred Newson was a builder and was married to Sarah Elizabeth Newson.  She died c1875, buried in Masterton.  They had a daughter named Sarah Newson who lived with Charles Frederick Langdon.
They ran the clifton boarding house in Bulls, Rangitikei, New Zealand as well as Charley boy was a baker.   Sarah and Charles had a very large family but never married! George their son took over the bakery around 1903-1906, when Charles Frederick Langdon mysteriously disappeared. I have never been able to find him.  There are Charles Langdons buried in Wellington but not HIM!
After his disappearance, Sarah married Charles Martin Dawson of Oroua Downs, Rangitikei.
I knew Sarah as a very young child but she died in the early 1960's.  There has always been a confusion over her age.  She supposedly arrived on the "La Hogue" in 1874 but she is shown as a minor - living in the young ladies quarters - on the boat ??  FUNNY.  When she died she was meant to be in her 90's, but we all thought she was more likely to be over 100 years old!
To this day, we have never found out what happened to Charles Frederick, but we do know that he scarpered out of the Rangitikei rather quickly, with the help of a constable (we think), that seems to be the rumour.
Sarah had brothers named
Thomas who was adopted out to the Blinkbornes  - I know that history
Robert lived in around Rangitikei  - He only had one arm......story was that it was shot off!
Susannah Maude Newson ....................Disappeared............adopted
another sister - can't remember her name off pat.......in amongst my filing somewhere -goodness knows where ........??
It is believed that some of the children were adopted by the kite faimily - near wellington.
Charles Frederick Langdon owned land in Mangaroa, upper hutt.  This is where he met Sarah Newson.  Charles Frederick Langdon's previous life is a bit of a mystery as well.
His first wife Emma Sabina Dye, died around the 1870's. After that he married Clara Dillon.
That marriage lasted a very short time.  There was a divorce around 1886, I think  By 1890 Sarah had had a child by him and had moved up to Bulls, Rangitikei.
Charles' past is very sketchy.  We know he married in London to Emma Sabina.  We know who his parents were but a little difficult prior to that. 
I have a marriage certificate here of a Alfred Newson marrying a Jane Chittock/Shannon, not sure what the name was, but I am going to have to find it......it may help!
Well sorry folks, this makes the plot even thicker......help me if you can....I have been working on this whole mystery - Newson included - for 30 odd years.......................HELPl