Agnes Mary BURNS and Agnes Montgomery MCEWAN - are they the same person?

[Lucy2]

Hi

Personally, I don't find it odd (but maybe that's because my Australian-born gg g/m ... and her gaggle of sisters all deserted husbands (or husbands deserted them) after very brief marriages ... and they then journeyed to this side of the "ditch" ...  and began the process all over again ! )   

I do think there is a very real possibilty that it is your Agnes who married this Mr WATKINS.

Not sure whether there will be an address (c. 1869) available for Janet McEWAN on an electoral roll ... you could try "Ancestry".   [Listings in that era tended to be only for men who owned land or property.    There may be a directory listing in Wises or similar ?]

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Another thought   ... might be worth looking to see if a brother of Agnes is listed as living at Grey Street ?

Andrew McEWAN ... born 1850 ...  a bit young in 1869, but could be listed at a slightly later date.

I'm not sure the "Intention to Marry" (ITM) will be of much help  ... as by 1869 Agnes is probably of "full age" so doesn't require permission to marry.   [You can however post an ITM look-up request here - see the thread headed "Wellington Archives".]

As you know, these very early NZ Marriage certs. don't offer a great deal of info, but it may be a worthwhile purchase to learn who the marriage witnesses were.   

~  Lu   

[Lucy2]

A bit about Bazett : 

NZ Death

1917 - WATKINS - Bazett - 78 years    (bc 1839)

Had a child - birth reg. in 1878 - with Mary Ruia [sic] - un-named, which suggests it died shortly after birth.
Death of a "Mary WATKINS" aged 34 in 1880.

Bazett went on to have about six children (from 1880) with "a Madeline /Madoline".  Can't see a marriage.

He is buried at Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland (no record of a burial / cremation, found for his wife.)

[Lucy2]

Lou

FamilySearch has records for McEWAN / McEWEN (NZ) ... all submitted, with sources not quoted (so treat with caution). 

Numerous entries include Isaac & Janet  (double-ups I suspect).

Worth picking over for leads to other children.  Often the info can prove to in fact be correct.

~  Lu

[louisa b]

Many thanks for all your ideas
will have a look at familysearch
Lou

[louisa b]

Hi Lu
have received in the post the marriage certificate of Bazett WATKINS and Agnes McEWAN
24th June 1869 at Auckland, age of both "major" , Watkins a mariner, bachelor; Agnes a spinster
officiating minister R.F. MACNICOL
witnesses James McLELLAN, timber merchant, Aratapu; Elizabeth MARTIN, Grey St, Auckland

most unfortunately it is different from the cert I have for the Edward SHATTOCK marriage, in that it has been re-written (?by minister) and therefore does not have the original signatures that I was hoping to compare

is this because I ordered "Printout copy"?? In all other respects the actual form is the same layout , wording etc

cheers

[Lucy2]

Hi Lou

How disappointing.     Grrr !!   

I think the best idea is to direct any queries re: printout / certificate issues, to NZ BDM.   

I have some further snippets of info for you, which I'll post shortly.

  ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi again

Think it would be a good idea to get the Intention to Marry notices (ITM's) for both  McEWAN - WATKINS and BURNS - SHATTOCK.   [See my reply # 19 on where to post a look-up request.]

Amongst the info contained in an ITM, is "place of residence" at time of the notice ... and "length of residence" (in the registration district in which the couple were to wed.)

[It may just tell if Agnes was (1) living at other than Grey Street ... and if so, how long she'd lived there.    And (2) where she was living when she married Mr. SHATTOCK. ]

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

OK, have the marriage certificate in front of me

witnesses
J. M. Barnes  very flamboyant squiggles around the initials but I think it's J M (and definitely not BURNS) and
E. Brown

Lou  ... were occupations or places of abode, listed for these two witnesses ?