trying to find a birth record

[hamali]

Thank you so much for that.
 

[Mort29]

Transcribed Jessel in 1851 Chelsea - HO107/Piece: 1474 Folio: 578 Page: 12 @ Winson Cottage with more older kids:-

 
William Jessel 32 Head born Willesden: Labourer
Eliza Jessel 22 Wife ditto
Francis Jessel 8 dau Willesden
Eliza Jessel 6 dau Paddington
William Jessel 4 son ditto
Alfred Jessel 2 son ditto




and William's own family in 1841 ...

HO107/Piece 690/Book: 17 Civil Parish: Willesden Folio: 18 Page: 3 @ Kilburn Lane

all state born in County
 
Rachel Sissel 33 Laundress
William Sissel 18
Thomas Sissel 16
Rachel Sissel 14
Hannah Sissel 12
Louisa Sissel 10
David Sissel 7

[hamali]

Thanks for that 

[hamali]

Thanks for all that so why can we not find them in the 1861 census I have looked but nothing at all.

[lizdb]

See reply #6 !

[hamali]

ok thanks 

[Mort29]

Did you see the marriage update to show that the correct Eliza was WHELDON?

In 1871 RG10/Piece: 91 Folio: 14 Page: 22 Chelsea (Kensal Town?), same address as 1861, the Family is transcribed SIFFELL.

William is now calling himself Thomas, and the only children at home are Eliza jnr, aged 13 occupation Nursemaid - & Louisa who has Married an Edward Harper - they have 2 kids.

Now, theres no matching Eliza aged 2 or 3 in the 1861 we saw, so I'd bet that this is in fact Hannah 


(Eliza snr dies 1874 - and Thomas in 1893

Deaths Jun 1893   
Sissell  Thomas  73  Kensington  1a 67



Ah, Thomas Sissell (PoB shown Harlesden Green) is a Lodger with William and Eliza Munday in Chelsea, @ 1, Church Street in 1881 - RG11/Piece: 90 Folio: 41 Page: 6   .... I cant see the Munday's marriage, but I'm wondering if the Eliza is Thomas/Williams dau after all ?


Damnit - so where was she in 1861 ?

Marriages Mar 1875   
 
Munday  William    Kensington  1a 216   
SISSEL  Eliza     Kensington  1a 216   
SISSELL  Eliza     Kensington  1a 216   


See next posting ....

[Mort29]

LOLOL I dont believe it - there's 2 Sissel(l) families in Kensal Road Chelsea ... the one headed by William, married to an Eliza, and the other is headed by the Thomas also married to an Eliza, that I've been following - & who DOES have a dau Eliza in 1861 (and 1871 as we saw, and who married Mr Munday !)

1861 census of Chelsea - RG9/Piece: 39 Folio: 67 Page: 23 @  Kensal Road ...
 
Thomas Sessel (sic) 40 Head born Willesden: Gen Labourer
Eliza Sessel 39 Wife Willesden
Annie Sessel 14 dau Chelsea
Louisa Sessel 9 dau ditto
Eliza Sessel 5 dau ditto



Marriages Sep 1844
ALLEN  Abraham    Kensington  3 274   
BOLTON  William     Kensington  3 274   
BUARDSELL  Ann     Kensington  3 274   
COURTNEY  Charlotte     Kensington  3 274   
LOWE  William     Kensington  3 274   
REEVES  Eliza     Kensington  3 274   
SAUNDERS  Louisa     Kensington  3 274   
SISSELL  Thomas     Kensington  3 274



Thomas can be seen with 'your' William on the 1841 I posted... 

[Mort29]

so wheres the William / Eliza couple in 1871 onward, and which Eliza died in 1874 !