PAYNE: KEN, ENG to VIC, AUS to NZL

[GLC]

I am researching the PAYNE family and welcome any help or contacts to share data with.
Cheers, Glen


My Great Great Grandfather & Grandmother

Stephen PAYNE b. c1810 KEN, ENG; d. 1853 nr Pahran, Melbourne, VIC, AUS
m. 1840 Melbourne, VIC, AUS to
Alicia Elizabeth aka Alice, Hannah, Letitia RYAN b. 1819 Cashel, TIP, IRE; d. VIC, AUS

Alice remarried c1857 to a COCKERAINE

*****

My Great Grandfather & Grandmother

John Frederick PAYNE b. 1844 Hamilton, Portland Bay, VIC, AUS; d. 1907 Dandenong, VIC, AUS
m. 1866 Brighton, VIC, AUS to
Annie Maria aka Alice CAHILL (d/o Patrick CAHILL & Mary CARROLE) b. 1844 Tipperary, TIP, IRE; d. 1910 Dandenong, VIC, AUS

*****

My Grandfather & Grandmother

William PAYNE b. 1881 Bass, VIC, AUS; d. 1968 Wanganui, NZL
m. 1918 Wanganui, NZL to
Olive May WILLIAMS (d/o William Smith WILLIAMS & Elizabeth Ann THOMAS) b. 1888 Ashurst, NZL; d. 1955 Wanganui, NZL

[sparrett]

GLC

There may well be some who will see your information and make contact.

In the meantime, are there any particular gaps (etc) in your searches that the R'chat  team could help with?

Or, are you just wanting contact with others of your family line?

Sue

[GLC]

GLC

There may well be some who will see your information and make contact.

In the meantime, are there any particular gaps (etc) in your searches that the R'chat  team could help with?

Or, are you just wanting contact with others of your family line?

Sue

Thanks for the reply and offer Sue.
Stephen bn c1810 (as per death cert) is my real sticking point. Information and solid data seems as scarce as "Hen's Teeth" 

All I have is the following and really I don't see a way of getting further. Fresh eyes may see a way though, so here goes.....

Neil GUNSON in his book "The Good Country Cranbourne Shire" states that Stephen & Hannah were in the services of the Wedge Bros. about 1837 & were employed at the Banyan run as stockman & housekeeper.
(I have googled W. Bros with mixed results)

They were in definitely in Australia before 1840 as first known child bn then, but have not found a ship or passage for them. May be the Wedge Bros had their own ship?

Stephen, his horse & dog were killed during a lightning strike leaving his wife with six young children
I am still trying for her death, or possible remarriage.

Any advice or info would be gratefully received Sue.
Cheers, Glen

[judb]

You have probably seen the newspaper accounts (on TROVE) of the inquest which give details of Stephen's death.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60146216

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4799137

There are others also.

Judith

[alison2763]

Hello Glen,
I take it you have all the children's names ?
Father's name is Stephen PAYNE on all certificates , except on John's b 1845 it is PAINE.
John b 1840 Melbourne - Letitia RYAN # 35955
Margaret b 1842 Melbourne - Elizabeth RYAN # 174 & # 36367
Stephen b 1842 Melbourne -  Elizabeth RYAN # 175 & # 36368
William b 1843  Heidelberg- Alice RYAN # 37035 died 1865 aged 22 Heidelberg -Alice RYNE # 1791
John b 1845 Melbourne-Ally RYAN # 38663 & 811
Stephen b 1849 Westernpoint- Eliza RYAN # 42836
George d 1878 aged 27 Lyndhurst- Alice RYAN # 4807

I can't see the marriage to COCKERAINE in fact that name is not on the Index between 1836 and 1888 ?

Regards
Alison

[GLC]

You have probably seen the newspaper accounts (on TROVE) of the inquest which give details of Stephen's death.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60146216

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4799137

There are others also.

Judith

I do have copies of the newspaper accounts, but thank you for posting Judith.
Cheers, Glen

[GLC]

Hello Glen,
I take it you have all the children's names ?
Father's name is Stephen PAYNE on all certificates , except on John's b 1845 it is PAINE.
John b 1840 Melbourne - Letitia RYAN # 35955
Margaret b 1842 Melbourne - Elizabeth RYAN # 174 & # 36367
Stephen b 1842 Melbourne -  Elizabeth RYAN # 175 & # 36368
William b 1843  Heidelberg- Alice RYAN # 37035 died 1865 aged 22 Heidelberg -Alice RYNE # 1791
John b 1845 Melbourne-Ally RYAN # 38663 & 811
Stephen b 1849 Westernpoint- Eliza RYAN # 42836
George d 1878 aged 27 Lyndhurst- Alice RYAN # 4807

I can't see the marriage to COCKERAINE in fact that name is not on the Index between 1836 and 1888 ?

Regards
Alison

Oh no another John......
Rather than re-posting info already here, I will send you a PM with the revised family and you could maybe tell me what you think.
Cheers, Glen

[sparrett]

Hi
Alison may not be online at the moment to respond.

If the information is not of a confidential nature, it would be best to keep the chat on the open board so all may take an interest and assist

Sue

[GLC]

Hi
Alison may not be online at the moment to respond.

If the information is not of a confidential nature, it would be best to keep the chat on the open board so all may take an interest and assist

Sue

I didn't want to clog up the boards with a lot of the same info Sue.
However, will post the revised info. G