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Re: George Green
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 11:40 BST (UK) »
Campton cum Shefford is Beds, Hitchin and Potten/?Pirton are Herts. Sadly there isn't a marriage showing in Beds or Herts. It is possible they didn't marry of course - George would have been under 21 if age at death is correct so perhaps his parents said no? or maybe Fanny was already married? maybe they married later? perhaps in Somerset?

Bit of a puzzle

have you looked for wills for George and Fanny? They could be enlightening if they exist.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: George Green
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 12:13 BST (UK) »
When you're desperate, as you obviously are, you need to clutch at anything which might provide a clue.

BLARS at Bedford hold a will of John Green of Shefford, mealman and baker, reference 1810/23. I would get a copy to see if he mentions a son George, or grandchildren.

The IGI dates the baptism of George Green as 10 July 1808, not 1809.

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: George Green
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 12:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Bedforshireboy, I found a baptism for George Green in 1808 and 1809, think there might have been two Georges the first having died.

I have managed to trace all nine of George and Fanny's children with the exception of John.

Excuse my ignorance but what does BLARS stand for?

Many thanks for your help

axecalibre
FOULIS, MOFFAT, Scotland, NZ, Canada
SPENCE-THOMAS, Forest of Dean, Wales, England
ADAIR, Dublin
MAGGS, BULL, Bristol, England, Ireland
ALLEN, London, Bristol
GREEN, Shefford, Beds, Somerset
DURRELL, Wivenhoe
BRIDGMAN, England

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Re: George Green
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 14:20 BST (UK) »
BLARS is the Bedfordshire and Luton Archives and Records Service

http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/ArchivesAndRecordOffice/ArchivesAndRecordOffice.aspx

scroll down and on left hand side is 'search our catalogues'

If you decide to contact them about the will or anything else they are extremely helpful.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge


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Re: George Green
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 14:36 BST (UK) »
On Freereg there is this burial in Bishops Lydeard

George Green 70 buried 26 Jun 1840

which would fit with the Taunton district death you have for Jun qtr 1840 apart from the age. As the Death Index this early doesn't give ages  I wonder where you got that he was 55 as you say you don't have the death certificate?

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: George Green
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 16:04 BST (UK) »
Mmmm correct Jan, not sure how I knew, maybe Parish records... So long ago, will have to dig out file, why haven't I noted where I get my information from??
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SPENCE-THOMAS, Forest of Dean, Wales, England
ADAIR, Dublin
MAGGS, BULL, Bristol, England, Ireland
ALLEN, London, Bristol
GREEN, Shefford, Beds, Somerset
DURRELL, Wivenhoe
BRIDGMAN, England

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Re: George Green
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 17:26 BST (UK) »
Taking a step back here:

George & Fanny Green baptised the following children in Campton

Fanny 16 Feb 1806, born 12 Jun 1803
William 16 Feb 1806, born 3 May 1805
Elizabeth 10 July 1808
George 18 Feb 1810, born 12 Jun 1809

George, no parents named, was baptised on 10 Jul 1808, the same day as Elizabeth, so I think it's reasonable to assume that it was an adult baptism of George the father of Elizabeth.

Which makes it all the more vital  to establish his age on burial ie is the 1840 burial that Jan found the correct one, in which case we're looking for a 15 years older George than we thought.

What baptism/birth dates and places do you have for the other children of George and Fanny?

John and Martha baptised a number of children in Campton 1770-79. Might George have been their son, who somehow got missed?

On an earlier thread,you were given a marriage of John Green and Martha Neal née Green at Campton on 19 Nov 1767. Whilst this isn't on the IGI it looks OK, and there's time for George to have been born 1767-69.

Given that at least one Campton marriage seems to have been missed from the IGI I'd be tempted to view the microfilm to see if others may have been similarly missed

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: George Green
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 18:05 BST (UK) »
This is what I have to date, the last date is death, where it says about and a date means I have traced them up to that date, and the last place

Fanny b 1803 - after 1851 Bridgewater
William b 1805 - 1882 Bridgewater
Elizabeth b 1806 - 1883 Hitchin
George b 1808 - 1809??
George 1809 - after 1881 Hitchin
Maria b 1813 - 1875 Lewisham
Rebecca b 1814 - 1887 Taunton
John b 1817 nothing after christening
Samuel b 1822 - 1904 West Ham Essex.

Baptism for all is Shefford, but I have written Campton cum Shefford for Maria, maybe because originally she was the person in which I was interested.

Maybe I should put a posting on the Somerset board to check death of George?

Again thank you for your interest
FOULIS, MOFFAT, Scotland, NZ, Canada
SPENCE-THOMAS, Forest of Dean, Wales, England
ADAIR, Dublin
MAGGS, BULL, Bristol, England, Ireland
ALLEN, London, Bristol
GREEN, Shefford, Beds, Somerset
DURRELL, Wivenhoe
BRIDGMAN, England

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Re: George Green
« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 01:58 »
 Just responding to a post regarding a location Pirton or Porton.  There is: Pirton which is a village and civil parish in the North Hertfordshire district of Hertfordshire, England