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James Scott parentage info
« on: Tuesday 09 August 11 13:28 BST (UK) »
I have James Scott's b cert and father is named as William Scott (b. 1856) a Colliery bankman and mother Elizabeth Ann Scott (nee Robson b. 1861). I am struggling to firm up their birth and marriage details. Can anyone help please?

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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 14:08 BST (UK) »
I cant find the Marriage either of William/Elizabeth.

1881 Census William SCOTT born c 1856, Newbottle, Durham, is with his Sister Dorothy WATSON born c 1848, Newbottle.
This may help find him in earlier Census. (EDIT-done)

1871 he seems to be with Sister Hannah APPLEBY born c 1843, Houghton Le Spring, Durham. Also in the Household is JOHN Scott born c 1849, Newbottle another Brother for Hannah.
Putting this all together I found this possible 1861 Census;

1861 Census
Houghton Le Spring, Durham
RG9/3754/60/8
Edward Nicholson SCOTT, 40, Head, Widower, Coal Miner, born Houghton Le Spring
HANNAH Scott, 18, Daug, Unm, Housekeeper
George Scott, 16, Son, Unm, Coal Miner
DOROTHY Scott, 12, Daug, Scholar
JOHN Scott, 11, Son, Scholar
WILLIAM Scott, 7, Son, Scholar

1851 Census
Back Lane,
Newbottle, Durham
HO107/2393/116/19
Edward SCOTT, 34, Head, Mar, Coal Miner
Elizabeth, 34, Wife, Mar
Hannah, 8, Daug, Scholar
George, 6, Son, Scholar
Dorthy, 2, Daug
John, 1, Son
All down as born Newbottle

1841 Census
Crop Row,
Houghton Le Spring, Durham
HO107/312/17/Houghton le Spring
John SCOTT, 43, Coal Miner
EDWARD Scott, 20, Blacksmith Apprentice
John Scott, 12
Edward Scott, 3
Ann NICHOLSON, 75, Ind

Ann Nicholson may be John Scotts Mother in Law.

Trish :)


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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 14:21 BST (UK) »
Edward Nicholson SCOTT, Christened 13 May 1821, Houghton le Spring, Durham to JOHN /HANNAH

MARRIAGES;

Edward Nicholson SCOTT, Father JOHN Scott
Elizabeth WATSON, Father GEORGE Watson
06 February 1842, Houghton le Spring, Durham

John SCOTT
Hannah NICHOLSON
23 July 1820, Houghton le Spring, Durham

BURIAL;
HANNAH Scott, 12 January 1841, Houghton le Spring, Durham, Age 44,
Birth 1797

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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 14:45 BST (UK) »
Got it ;D
Just saved you 10pounds odd!

England Marriages 1538-1973 on Familysearch.Org;
William SCOTT, Single, Age 27, Birth c 1855, Father EDWARD NICHOLSON Scott
Elizabeth Ann ROBSON, Single, Age 22, Birth 1860, Father ROBERT LONSDALE Robson
07 October 1882, Houghton le Spring, Durham

I cant find a corresponding Reg on FreeBMD for the Marriage.

Trish :)
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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 15:09 BST (UK) »
1861 Census
William or Welham St,
Houghton le Spring, Durham
RG9/3752/55/28
Robert L ROBSON, 44, Head, Mar, Shoemaker Master, born Fatfield
Mary A, 45, Wife, Mar, born West Rainton
Matthew H, 10, Son, Scholar
Margaret, 8, Daug, Scholar
Joseph, 3, Son
ELIZABETH A, 8mths, Daug
All Children born Houghton..

i wont take all of the fun out of it for you;
Roberts Christening 1817 and Marriage 1846 are on Familysearch.Org
His Parents (Matthews/Elizabeth) Marriage 1813, Northumberland also is there.

If you need any more help just shout.

Trish :)
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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 15:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jen ;D

Death Reg;
Robert Lonsdall ROBSON, June 1869, Houghton, 10a 255, Age 52

Elizabeth is with Mary Ann (Mother) and Siblings age 10 in 1871 Census  and also in 1881 Census age 20.
Mary Ann probably died between 1881-1891 and there are a couple of possible Death Reg on FreeBMD

MATTHEW Robson and Wife Elizabeth may be on the 1851 census also and he is born c 1785, Lambley, Durham. Looks good as he is a Cordwainer(shoemaker) also.
HO107/2393/229/23

1841 census Robert is at home with Matthew/Elizabeth and Siblings and also Elizabeths Parents ;D
HO107/312/11/Houghton le Spring
If you have trouble with finding from Census Refs try looking in 1841 for;
Robert LONSDALE born c 1756, living in Houghton le Spring
(both Robert/Mary Londale are Not born in County, so Marriage may be elsewhere when looking for it)

You are one lucky person :)
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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 15:27 BST (UK) »
England Marriages 1538-1973 on Familysearch.Org;
William SCOTT, Single, Age 27, Birth c 1855, Father EDWARD NICHOLSON Scott
Elizabeth Ann ROBSON, Single, Age 22, Birth 1860, Father ROBERT LONSDALE Robson
07 October 1882, Houghton le Spring, Durham

I cant find a corresponding Reg on FreeBMD for the Marriage.


It is on freeBMD: William Scott & Elisabeth Ann Robson, 4q 1882, Houghton le Spring 10a, 647
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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 15:46 BST (UK) »
I MUST be blind as honestly I looked at this several times and could not find it.
Senior moment? ;)

At least I found the rest :D  ::) so cant be too senile.
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Re: James Scott parentage info
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 16:00 BST (UK) »
I MUST be blind as honestly I looked at this several times and could not find it.

Her christian name is spelt Elisabeth on freeBMD so perhaps that's why it didn't appear straight away for you. I wasn't being critical of you.
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