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Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« Reply #18 on: Friday 28 March 14 14:49 GMT (UK) »
Bernard Halpenny born 18 Jan 1876 to Bernard Halpenny and Catherine McCabe,Carrickmacross.
Employed by Guinness
Martin Halpenny born 10 May 1886
ID 11319
Joined 1st May 1907 age 21 Worked in the Liverpool Dept as a drayman
Left 9th Feb 1915.

1901 Census 23 Drumboory,Monaghan
Martin HalFpenny age 12 with more siblings and widowed mother Catherine age 52
1911 Census 17 Drumboory , Catherine HalFpenny age 68 children and g child.

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Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« Reply #19 on: Friday 28 March 14 16:50 GMT (UK) »
I think the Easter or Esther Mary Halfpenny on the 1901 census in Drumgoory is actually Patricks child born Dublin 1898 as Mary Esther.
They have not recorded her place of birth on the census.

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Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« Reply #20 on: Friday 28 March 14 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Dathai, yes that seems to be Bernard Halpenny from Cork St.  Its very useful to know when he died. 

The 1911 census revealed the interesting fact that Bernard, aged 11, could read and write both English and Irish. Of the 12 people in the house,  only two, Bernard and his sister ( aged 12) could read and write Irish. Obviously they were attending Irish classes.
 I do not know for sure how Bernard died. I am not aware that any of the Halpins were shot, although it they were active on the Republican side.
Private 1st Class refers to a Halpin being shot by the IRA. I think that the person who was shot by the IRA may have been Owen Hoey, who I understand was a cousin of the Halpins. Owen was shot and killed by the IRA on James Walk, on the 28th July 1912, within weeks of the Truce on the 11th July. He was presumably shot because he was a Constable in the Royal Irish Constabulary. He was based somewhere outside Dublin. He was on his way from Kingsbridge Station when he was shot. There are different theories as to where he was going. One suggestion was that he was going to propose to his girlfriend, another that he was going to visit his sister and the other was that he was going to visit the Halpin family in Cork St.
But back to the original question, relating to Patrick Halpenny/ Halpin. He does not appear in the 1911 census when he would have been 10 years of age. Any views on where one can find out more?

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Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« Reply #21 on: Friday 28 March 14 17:07 GMT (UK) »
Yes He's in Drumboory in 1911 with his gran.


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« Reply #22 on: Friday 28 March 14 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Private1st Class and dathai for the new information. I had not read the posts when I made my last post.
Yesterday I went to 79 Cork St and 6 Dolphins Barn Street and was surprised that the two buildings are still standing!

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 28 March 14 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Dathai, for some reason I cannot find a Patrick Halpenny in Drumboory in the 1911 census. Any idea where I might be going wrong.?

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Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« Reply #24 on: Friday 28 March 14 17:53 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #25 on: Friday 28 March 14 17:56 GMT (UK) »
AaaHa another name change, No wonder I did not find it. many thanks Dathai.

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Re: Locating halpin of cork st
« Reply #26 on: Friday 28 March 14 20:19 GMT (UK) »
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         can i ask how you tie Owen Hoey born 1898 shot 1921 living with parents Owen Hoey and Catherine Mary Cunningham in 1901 to Joseph Hoey born Carrickmacross 1885 and the Halfpenny/Halpenny/Halpin's.

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