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SHEPPARD/STAPLES - Publow
« on: Saturday 06 August 11 17:40 BST (UK) »
Trying to find some more information re Joseph Sheppard (or Shepherd) who married Martha Staples on the 14th October 1805 at All Saints, Publow.   Martha is stated as being a widow - does anyone know if Staples is likely to be her maiden name or the surname of her first husband?

I have found two sons born to a Joseph and Martha i.e. Joseph b 18/4/1807  & John b 4/3/1810 both Chelwood and Abode listed as Woollard.  Joseph's occupation is  a Glover on son Joseph's record and a Breeches maker on John's record.    On the IGI  there is an Elizabeth Sheppard b 5/11/1815 Wesleyan, Bath - parents Joseph Sheppard and Martha.    There are also death records for an Elizabeth Sheppard 23/3/1817 Age 18mths Abode Bath;  Martha Sheppard 11/4/1817 Age 40 Abode Compton Dando and for John Sheppard 14/10/1821 Age 11 Abode Publow -  all 3 record details have All Saints, Publow for Church & Place.

Given the above and as I don't know the area at all and am too far away to visit, again can anyone tell me if I'm on the right track of establishing if these people are all of the same family. 

Any info on Joseph Sheppard, the Glover would be much appreciated.

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Re: SHEPPARD/STAPLES - Publow
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 August 11 23:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Sheenie,

Almost always, a widow will use her married name when marrying again.  But I can't see any trace of a Staples marrying a Martha in tha area before 1805, on FreeREG or the North Somerset Marriages CD.  However, I did notice that on the CD the Publow 1805 marriage is recorded as Joseph Sheppard and Martha STOKES, Widow! But I can't see a marriage of Martha to a Stokes either :(   Which is odd as there are baptisms for children of Joseph and Martha Stokes in Publow and a burial for Joseph Stokes in 1804. But unfortunately the baptisms were in 1803 and 1810, which rules that Martha out unless the 1810 is another mistake or there were two Joseph and Marthas.

The burials at Publow would seem to tie in nicely. The Elizabeth baptised in Bath was born 27 August 1815 so would be just under 19 months if buried 23 Mar 1817, fitting exactly. Her baptism entry also records that she was born in Weston (on the edge of Bath) and that her mother's maiden name was Thomson. There was a Martha Thomson baptised at Publow in 1777. She'd be 40 in 1817, fitting with the burial of Martha Sheppard.  Definitely looks like you are on the right track assuming all those extracts refer to the same family.

David

PS Just found  Martha Thomson married Joseph Stoakes at St. Paul's, Bristol on 17 Mar 1800.

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Re: SHEPPARD/STAPLES - Publow
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 August 11 20:05 BST (UK) »
Hi David

Thank you so much for this information - needed a fresh pair of eyes!  Certainly given me more avenues to try.     

Still not sure if I've got the right family yet as I'm looking for a Caroline Elizabeth Shepherd bc 1820 Bath (according to her census records) and  her marriage cert states her father as Jospeh Sheppard -Occ. Glover.  If the dates are correct Martha couldn't be her mother. I suppose there is the possibility that maybe Joseph Sheppard married again after Martha's death.   The only Caroline Elizabeth I've found (on Free Reg) was born 3/10/1821 St. Swithin, Walcot to a John & Sarah Sheppard!

Anyway thanks again - you've been most helpful.

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Re: SHEPPARD/STAPLES - Publow
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 October 15 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sheenie, don't know if you are still chasing this, I've got a John Staples, born 1770, whose parents were John and Martha Staples from Ringwood Hampshire, but probably unlikely its her if she had a son in 1810