CRAIGEN - Scotland to Australia 1890

[sparrett]

Hi Cando,
Would that be the elderly fellow I listed in #4?

Died in Merbien 1977 just outside Mildura.

Looks like ANNA's chap is not to be seen in Vic after all.

Sue

[anabanana]

Oh dear, so he didnt end up in Oz then? 

Annette7 I cannot find any of the family in the 1911 census except Henry. I'd be interested to know where you found them?

John married in 1909 to a lady called Anna Brebner. But couldnt find them on the 1911.  I will try a soundex on the surname...

[sparrett]

Looks like ANNA's chap is not to be seen in Vic after all.SUE

Anna,
I said "not..... seen in VIC"

The outcome of your search to date is that the Shipping entry you spotted was a crewman of same initials and surname and there are none by the name you are seeking evident in VICTORIA.

Sue

[RS MCCARTHY]

REPLY TO ANNETTE 7   WILLIAM CRAIGEN WAS MY GRANDFATHER HE FINALLY SETTLED ON A FARM IN TEMPY  VICTORIA AUSTRALIA HE HAD A FAMILY OF SIX GIRLS AND ONE BOY THREE OF HIS DAUGHTERS ARE STILL ALIVE TODAY AND ALL IN THEIR NINETEES  IF YOU WISH TO KNOW MORE I AM ABLE TO HELP

[RS MCCARTHY]

WILLIM CRAIGEN WAS MY GRANDFATHER I CAN HELP YOU WITH INFO IF YOU WISH

[cando]

Hi 

Welcome to rootschat

The search is for a William Alexander CRAIGEN born 1870 Aberdeen son of James CRAIGEN and Jane ROBERTSTON.

This appears to be your family.

There were a family of CRAIGEN's who lived about an hour from my area and the father William died in Mildura in 1977 however the ages are incorrect as well as the parents' names.

Cando

All speculative...you would need some certificates.

Possibly your Wm's arrival
CRAIGEN Mr 26 years  May 1909 on the VICTORIA From Port B 787/003

Marriage
CRAIGEN Wm
GEARY Florence Ellen
1913 Reg#5816

Death reg shows your Wm was born c1884.
CRAIGEN William
Father William  Mother Annie TAYLOR
At Merbein  93 years  1977  Reg#8044

Is this your man on the 1891 census living at
Knockdhu, Morayshire?

CRAIGEN William 47 Head   Sawmiller  Born Leslie, Aberdeenshire
CRAIGEN Ann 42  Wife  Born  Liff, Forfarshire
CRAIGEN Mary 9  Dau  Scholar   Born Knockando, Morayshire
CRAIGEN William 7 Son Scholar  Born Knockando, Morayshire
MILLER James 4 years  Boarder  Born Aberlour, Banffshire

And as posted by Sue previously, death of a brother

CRAIGEN James
Father William  Mother Ann  TAYLOR
At Reservoir  92 years  1962  Reg#24474

and possibly his and sister Mary's arrival

Embarked from London on the S S BORDA on 2 Sep 1926, ticketed to Melbourne, Australia.
Mr James CRAIGEN, 53 years Wood sawyer , Miss Mary CRAIGEN, 43 years, housekeeper, Mr James Norman CRAIGEN, 20 years, Labourer, Miss Mary Isobel CRAIGEN, 18 years, schoolgirl, Mr William Ramsay CRAIGEN, 13 years.
County of last permanent residence, Scotland.  Country of intended permanent residence, Australia.  Last address Victoria Cottage, Carron, Morayshire

Marriage
970/1930
CRAIGEN Mary
BEATH Laurence
District Jerilderie

They are on Electoral Rolls at Geelong from 1936.

Death
BEATH Mary
Father Craigen William  Mother Anne Smith TAYLOR
At Geelong  82 years  1966  Reg#18216

The families are on the electoral rolls and if I can type them up if you wish.

Do you think you could avoid typing in uppercase please.  It is difficult to read and can indicate shouting

Cheers 
Cando

[rosball]

Given Cando's mention of Leslie, Aberdeenshire, this obit to a James CRAIGEN in 1925 might be relevant.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16200505
MR. J. CRAIGEN.
The death occurred on Sunday night of Mr. James Craigen, builder and contractor,
of The Avenue, Ashfield. He was born in the parish of Leslie, Aberdeenshire, and after
a short stay in London, South Africa, and Perth settled in Melbourne, where he was a
member of the Builders' and Contractors' Association.
For 40 years he was an elder of the Presbyterian Church, being associated with the
Richmond and Kew congregations. Two years ago he carne to Ashfield.
His only surviving son Is the Rev. J. A. Craigen, of The Rock, the other son being
killed at Ypres In 1917. His wife and two daughters also survive:Miss Catherine in
Kew (Melbourne), and Miss Mary, in Ashfield.
A funeral service was held at the residence yesterday morning by Revs. R., J. H.
McGowan, and N. Hey. after which the coffin was conveyed to Melbourne for Interment.

NSW BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html

1925 reg 783/1925 CRAIGEN James  father James, mother Catherine at Ashfield

regards,
  Ros

(welcome RS McCarthy  from me too )

Death notices http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16187021 and
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2052585

[cando]

Ros I had found that notice and was in the middle of following the names of James' parents on the census.

1925 reg 783/1925 CRAIGEN James  father James, mother Catherine at Ashfield

James was buried at Brighton Cemetery, Vic and their records are not online so can't find his age.

It is possible that James CRAIGEN who died in Sydney is a brother to Wm's father Wm born c1844. The 1851 census has a Wm born Leslie, Aberdeen aged 7 with parents James and Catherine Milne.  On the 1861 there is a son James aged 7 years but Wm is not with the family.  Bit rushed so unable to type up the census info.

Cando

[maz591]

The James Craigen mentioned by Ros and Cando above was buried in Brighton Cemetery on Jan 26 1925 age 71.  Also in the same grave are Catherine Robena Craigen age 53 of South Yarra (buried 18 Feb 1946) and Mary Maud O'Brien age 78 of Canterbury (buried 2 May 1973), I would assume these are the daughters mentioned in the obituary.