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Marriage and Birth certificates. Help please.
« on: Tuesday 02 August 11 18:46 BST (UK) »
I have found my great-great grandfather John Caffrey listed on the 1881 census, along with his wife and 6 children. He is listed on the 1861 census as being unmarried and boarding with a family.   However, after extensive searching, I cannot find a marriage entry listed or any birth listings for any of the 6 children. I'm particularly frustrated with not finding the marriage entry as it has made my research come to a halt along this line of the family.  Can anyone tell me why I can't find any record of the marriage (or the births)?

Thanks  :)
Leppington ~ Welton/Marfleet (East Yorkshire)
Coupland ~ East Yorkshire
Caffrey ~ Sunderland/Ireland
Sunman ~ Sheringham/Great Yarmouth/Hull

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Re: Marriage and Birth certificates. Help please.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 18:48 BST (UK) »
hi,,,we need more info....what census?  or  how old is he,,,when and where was he born?  ;)
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 18:59 BST (UK) »
how about Ann Waters to John Caffry  1868 Sunderland ?  ;)
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 19:00 BST (UK) »
John Caffrey is on the 1861 census aged 20, living in Sunderland as a boarder. On the 1881 census, he is 40, now married to Ann and still living in Sunderland. He was born in Ireland (nothing more specific I'm afraid). I did once find a marriage entry for a John CAFFRY, but when I received the certificate it was obvious it wasn't the right one. He is not listed on the 1871 census, he died in 1882 ( I have his death certificate).
Leppington ~ Welton/Marfleet (East Yorkshire)
Coupland ~ East Yorkshire
Caffrey ~ Sunderland/Ireland
Sunman ~ Sheringham/Great Yarmouth/Hull


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 19:09 BST (UK) »
was the certificate you ordered the same one i posted?  Ann waters was born in Sunderland in the right year?
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 19:35 BST (UK) »
Hi,
The children were down on the 1881 as born Leadgate, Durham. Leadgate is a small village near Consett and would come under Lanchester reg district, although it moved around a bit!
On Freebmd there are various births in Lanchester reg district
Possiblly
Catherine Caffray ond 1880
Ellen Caffery    1876
Owen Caffray  1878
You would need certificates to make sure of parents. Try different spellings, there may be more :)

Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 19:40 BST (UK) »
Possibly the same family in Durham in 1871 ,under Caffray?
Rg10/4959  101/7

Cathy
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 20:12 BST (UK) »
Hi
There are a couple of trees on Ancestry thatbsay John Caffrey married Ann Brady , although this should nt be read as being correct, interestingly if you look on www.familysearch.org there is the following, not sure , perhaps a Catholic thing?
Baptisms Pontop, Durham
Helena Caffery 1876
Elizabetha  "       1875
Franciscus      "       1873
Margarita  "        1872
Maria        "         1870
All with parents Joannis Caffery and Annae Brady Caffery
Also a Jacobus Caffery 1864

Cathy 
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 02 August 11 22:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Cathy
The children are Mary, Margaret, James, Christopher, John and George. They are listed as born "Sunderland, Durham"

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Leppington ~ Welton/Marfleet (East Yorkshire)
Coupland ~ East Yorkshire
Caffrey ~ Sunderland/Ireland
Sunman ~ Sheringham/Great Yarmouth/Hull