Marriage and Birth certificates. Help please.

[Pentangle67]

Hi,
The children were down on the 1881 as born Leadgate, Durham. Leadgate is a small village near Consett and would come under Lanchester reg district, although it moved around a bit!
On Freebmd there are various births in Lanchester reg district
Possiblly
Catherine Caffray ond 1880
Ellen Caffery    1876
Owen Caffray  1878
You would need certificates to make sure of parents. Try different spellings, there may be more

Cathy

Hi Cathy,
The children are Mary, Margaret, James, Christopher, John and George. They are listed as born "Sunderland, Durham"

 

[Pentangle67]

how about Ann Waters to John Caffry  1868 Sunderland ? 

Yes, this was the one I ordered 

[cath151]

Hi,
Really sorry, big apologies  , obviously completely wrong John and Ann, will have a look for correct family tomorrow perhaps.
Cathy

[Pentangle67]

Hi,
Really sorry, big apologies  , obviously completely wrong John and Ann, will have a look for correct family tomorrow perhaps.
Cathy

No worries Cathy       In fact, after some more researching this evening, I think I have found John on the 1851 census! I looked on the Durham Records online and found a John CAFFREA, born in the right year, along with other members of his family, all born in Ireland. He doesn't appear on any other records in subsequent years. This made me wonder if the family had help in filling in their census form, ie due to high volume of illiteracy and the person who was filling in their form misspelt Caffrey???  Did this ever happen??  I am fairly new to family research (4 years on and off) so don't really know all the ins and outs.

[carol8353]

The census sheets that we see are the summary ones that the enumerator completed ,so the possibilty for spelling mistakes etc is even greater than you first think.

As you say if they were illiterate then a neighbour may have helped with their household form and by the time the enumerator copied it to his records anyhting could have happened.

So be open to all sorts of different spellings.People who could read and write would also spell a name the way they thought it should be spelt.Those who couldn't read it wouldn't know if it had been spelt correctly or not.

Happens today too  something as simple as my name gets spelt both Carole and Carol....depends if you know someone who spells it with or without an E

Carol 

[gortonboy]

how about Ann Waters to John Caffry  1868 Sunderland ? 

Yes, this was the one I ordered 

Why was it "obviously the wrong one" ?
if you dont know his wifes maiden name,,,and you dont have the childrens birth certs,,,what did you have to compare the result on the certificate with ? 

[ec]

This seems to be them in 1871 listed as Cafferty

John Cafferty 30 b. Ireland
Ann Cafferty 24 b. Sunderland
Mary Cafferty 5 b. Sunderland
Margaret A Cafferty 2 b. Sunderland

Living in Monkwearmouth
RG10/Piece: 5020, Folio: 42

There is a possible birth reg 1868 dec quarter Margaret Cafrey

[crisane]

1871 RG10/5020/42/22
Monk Wearmouth
John Cafferty 30 quarryman
Ann 24
Mary 5
Margaret 2

Mary age 5 would then match up with the Mary Caffray birth reg Sunderland Dec 1/4 1866 vol10a page 594

SNAP! ec 

[crisane]

FreeBMD marriage John Caffray Dec 1/4 1863 Sunderland vol 10a page 594. On same page Ann Brady

When looking for the children's birth registrations try just putting in Caff* instead of any variations you can thnk of.
Possible for James in Sunderland  Dec 1/4 1871 vol 10a page 627