Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844

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Found Edward in 1861~

James Street, Rugby
RG09/2212/81/18

Ann May, w, 37, Hallaton, Lancs
Edward Mostyn Thelwall, brder, 18, booking clerk, b. Wrexham
John Knunkey, brder, 23, general office clerk, b. Truro


Looks like Rebecca Sophia died before the 1861 census:

Rossett
RG09/4277/61/11

Bevis Heywood Thelwall, widower, 41, solicitor, b. Llanfair Dyffryn Clwyd
Llewellyn, 5, b. Gresford
John Bulkeley, 3, b. -do-
Emma Baker, servant, 16, house servant, b. Chester

Not sure if there's much more to find about him and his parents 


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[wilcoxon]

Possibly more on  the family.
These are Thelwall names that appear in the St Giles Parish Registers.
374 Wrexham Vol 28 Baptisms 1836-1851
374 Wrexham: Arthur Bevis, Bevis, Bevis Heywood, Edward Mostyn, George, Hannah, Mary Augusta,   Rebecca, Sophia Rebecca, William;

http://freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/index.html

[wilcoxon]

Marriages Sep 1881   
Hughes  Francess     Liverpool  8b 194
THELWALL  Bevis Heywood     Liverpool  8b 194 

 Iwonder if this is the same Frances Hughes 
1881 Alyn View ,Gresford - Marford & Hoseley, Flint, Wales
 Bevis Heywood THELWALL   Head   W   Male   60   Llanfair, Denbigh, Wales   County Coroner (Off)     
 Frances HUGHES   Boarder   U   Female   38   Gresford, Denbigh, Wales   Domestic     

Family search. They must have been in London at some time,
Bevis Moslyn Thelwall
Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Jun 1842
SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 03 Jun 1842
Father's Name: Bevis Heywood Thelwall
Mother's Name: Sophia Rebecca   
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00145-3
Source Film Number: 561149

 

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Wilcoxon

I noticed that, I think he married his housekeeper! His first wife died in 1855 the same year he had the big court case In 1858 he went bankrupt according to online newspapers.

So no wonder he died in 1892 leaving only £ 28 17s 8d!

Gen in NBL England

[maidmarion]

Hi
You may also be interested to know that your Thelwell family must also have links to Llanbedr Dyffryn Clwyd and the Curate there Edward Thelwell, as I have just come across  the baptisms of two of his children, one being a Bevis Thelwell bap Nov 13 1784 

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His first wife died in 1855 the same year he had the big court case In 1858 he went bankrupt according to online newspapers.

His first wife died in 1861 see my posting  - did you missed it! 

 

Entry on the North Wales BMD

Death 1861 Hope

Rebecca Sophia Thelwall

GRO index ~

Rebecca Sophia Thelwall

March quarter, 1861, Wrexham v 11b p 263

gnu

His son John Bulkely was 3 in the 1861!


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[Gen List Lass]

gnu

Bevis was a widower on the 1861 census
Reference RG10, 5651, 90, 9
Alyn View, Burton, Denbighshire
Thelwall, Bevis H  Head  Widower  M  50  County Coroner  b Llanfair
Thelwall, Llewellyn  Son  M  16  Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire
Thelwall, John B  Son  M  13 Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire

And here is Sophia's death from FreeBMD:
Deaths Mar Q.  1855   THELWELL    Sophia        Chorlton    8c   395

Gen in NBL England

[hiraeth]

Hi
You may also be interested to know that your Thelwell family must also have links to Llanbedr Dyffryn Clwyd and the Curate there Edward Thelwell, as I have just come across  the baptisms of two of his children, one being a Bevis Thelwell bap Nov 13 1784 

In 1851 Bevis Thelwall age 65 occupation Half Pay Commander RN, was staying with his brother the
Reverend Edward Thelwall age 70 at Rectory House Llanbedr.

Over the centuries the Thelwall family name appears in the pedigrees of some of North Wales most prominent families - Middletons, Mostyns, Goodmans, Salisburies to name a few.  One gets the sense that by the 19th century they were something of a spent force.   An interesting family to research

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gnu

Bevis was a widower on the 1861 census
Reference RG10, 5651, 90, 9
Alyn View, Burton, Denbighshire
Thelwall, Bevis H  Head  Widower  M  50  County Coroner  b Llanfair
Thelwall, Llewellyn  Son  M  16  Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire
Thelwall, John B  Son  M  13 Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire

And here is Sophia's death from FreeBMD:
Deaths Mar Q.  1855   THELWELL    Sophia        Chorlton    8c   395

Gen in NBL England

Sorry Gen but you're probably wrong .  Look at the facts ~

The Chorlton one was not her . They were in Rossett in 1861 - I had already listed them in the 1861  census.  I think you've missed a whole lot of postings that are relevant.

Rebecca Sophia was registered in Hope  according to the NWales BMD - this is where one would expect anyone living Rossett to be registered. Chorlton was in the Manchester area.

The son, John, was aged 3 in 1861.


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