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Re: Thomas E. Moore 1840
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 August 12 20:54 BST (UK) »
Hello!

This is quite a puzzle.  I have looked at the marriage entry you mention but if it is the correct one, then they were not being very truthful - Thomas claimed to be of age which at that date would have been 21 but if he really was born in 1840, he would only have been 19. He also said he was a hairdresser and his father was a farmer.

In 1871, I found a Thomas aged 33 (so born c 1838) born Cottenham co Cambridge who was a Jeweller.  His wife was Ellen aged 30 born Hempstead co Gloucester and they were living in Lambeth (South London) but had no child in the house. Did they have children in England?  That might help track them down in the Census returns of 1861 and 1871.  They might even have been in the 1881 Census if they didn't emigrate until May onwards.

Might he have reversed his names?  Where were they after they married?  Can the Salvation Army help with records of his joining and emigration - they may have an address for him in England.

Do hope you can locate them.

CJFC

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Re: Thomas E. Moore 1840
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 19:43 BST (UK) »
Taesma,
Could I ask the following please.
1. When Thomas died in Kansas what age was given on the death record/report.
2. Why do you feel he was born in the London area, we only have a birth date, no location.
3. Do you have any of the children's birth certificates confirming mmn and fathers name and occupation.
The reason for asking is we have no sight of him from marriage onwards.

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Re: Thomas E. Moore 1840
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 20:56 BST (UK) »
An article in a book records his birth in 1840 in Worcestershire.

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Re: Thomas E. Moore 1840
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 31 October 13 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Oh, my! I'm interested in following this thread, too. I am the great granddaughter of Caroline Moore, later McGinnis, the 5 month old daughter mentioned in the 1881 census. I've visited the family home at Forest Gate and wish I knew more about the Moore family.


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 31 October 13 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi mrtbksla

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Beth, who started this topic, only posted once and did not reply to the others, so we don't know whether the information was useful to her research.

As long as she hasn't changed her email address she should recive email notifications that we have posted and hopefully come back soon.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 01 November 13 06:27 GMT (UK) »
(Hmm, I replied to this earlier but it doesn't seem to have taken...I'll try to remember what I said  ;D)
I'm so glad to get this post! Shortly after I posted my original query my computer had a nervous breakdown and I lost bookmarks, links etc. And I couldn't remember where I'd posted this.  :-[
I wanted to say thanks to all who answered, thank you much for the help!

mrtbksla--I would very much like to correspond with you--I had just about given up on finding any Moore relatives. I have a lot of info on the family. Alas, still no birth for Thomas though.  :(
His grave is on Findagrave though. He is buried in Harper, Kansas.

Hope to hear from you!
Beth


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« Reply #15 on: Friday 01 November 13 07:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Beth

Welcome back  ;D

If there is information you want to exchange privately with mrtbksla such as living people or email addresses, you can use the personal message system but both of you need to have a post count of 2 or above.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Thomas E. Moore 1840
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 02 November 13 01:37 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beth,

Yes, I think we definitely need to be in touch with each other. I'm not sure whether you are a family member or a researcher. In either case, I'm interested. My knowledge of the Moore family is very spotty, and I've learned a lot online. I wasn't aware of the Salvation Army association until recently, though I know he was a devout evangelical Christian.

I have the death notice, stating that Thomas E. Moore died on January 9, 1898 at 57 years old. I still don't know his birthday. I have very yellowed newspaper clippings describing the event. And I have the Bible that he had on the pulpit when he died--as well as the bloodstone ring that belonged to his wife, Ellen Maria Hogg Moore.

My father was Carrie's (Caroline Alice Moore McGinnis's) grandson, and she was a very important presence in his life until she died when he was ten. My father and my grandmother, who hailed from Omaha, Nebraska, are long gone. My grandmother died in 1997, and my father in 2007. The only one of Carrie's siblings that my father knew well was his Uncle Will, who lived in Lincoln, Nebraska. I'm not sure exactly when he died, but I suspect it was the early '60s.

I can't lay my hands on it now, but I have Caroline Moore's birth certificate somewhere, giving the address at which she was born in Forest Gate, and listing her father's profession as "Professor of Religion." I know I have also seen another document somewhere that described him as a "jewel merchant." I was told that he had some connection to Tiffanys in New York.

Beyond that, I'm in the dark. I've always wanted to know more of the story.

 Best wishes,
Carol





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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 02 November 13 02:50 GMT (UK) »
Well, this is exciting! (Gee, I love genealogy.   8))

Yes, I'm related. Annie, Caroline's sister, was my great grandmother. She died in Brooklyn sometime between 1890 and 1900. We haven't been able to pin that down yet. We've been unable to find a death cert or anything and she's not buried where most of the others at that time are (with her husband's family, I mean).
My grandfather was William Erwin Jackson, b 1889. Annie also had a daughter named Caroline, who died at 8 months old.

I can't believe you have those keepsakes, that's fabulous!

Yes, the Rev. Moore was quite a fellow, he apparently was quite an entrepreneur who made a bit of a fortune in the US and Canada but then gave it up when he joined the SA.
I recently discovered another child of theirs, born in Canada named Geraldine, but I think she may have died young, as I can't find her anywhere else. Do you know anything of her?

By the way, that birthplace listed for Nelly in the 1881 census that no one can read is Scranton, Pennsylvania.  :D
Well, I will PM you so that we can communicate further. So so happy to "meet" yo!

And for anyone else still reading this, very glad I found this site again. I have more questions, heheheh...