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Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« on: Thursday 28 July 11 19:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

On the IGI I have found 2 baptisms to parents James & Ann Norwebb both with separate birth dates and in different churches so they are definitely different people but I wonder if the first child died or these are coincidentally, even with such an unusual surname, different families.  A third option is they really liked the name James!

James Walter Norweb baptised 03/04/1803 (High Pavement Presbyterian, Nottingham)
James Norweb baptised 29/05/1805 (Saint Peter, Nottingham)

So any burial information for James Jnr, James Snr or Ann Norwebb would be appreciated.

Many thanks

   Damian



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Re: Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 July 11 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Damian,

Here are Ann & James but I have sent you a pm.....

Ann NORWEB - 28th June 1820  - age 50 - abode Barkergate
James NORWEBB - 1st April 1828  - age 62 - abode Barker Gate

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Re: Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 July 11 13:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Damian

There are 7 children baptised to James & Ann at High Pavement Presbyterian and 2 elsewhere. 

Jane who was baptised 22 Feb 1799 at HPP was buried at St Nicholas 26.8. 1803 dau of James. There was a 2nd Jane baptised 21.10 1807 at St Marys.

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Re: Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 July 11 13:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks.

Does anyone know Nottingham well enough to make sense why you would baptise in one church and bury in another?  And also isn't it odd to be Presbyterian one minute and CoE the next?

Damian


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Re: Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 December 11 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi

If it's information on the Nottingham Norwebbs or the Norwebbs from anywhere around the world (they are all connected) then I have loads of information. 

I also happen to work at Nottinghamshire Archives and have seen the baptism, burial and marriage entries first hand.

The presbyterian church later became congregational and then United reformed emerged from that.  This hopefully explains one of your questions.

As for people being baptised in one place and buried in another>  There are several reasons for this:
The person might live in another area when they die and therefore be buried in that parish church.
The church they were baptised in might not have a graveyard or the graveyard may be full by the time of death so another one had to be sought.
Also many Nottinghamshire deaths in 1700s - 1800's and early 1900's resulted in burials in the two main cemeteries in Nottingham.  The Church Cemetery and the General Cemetery.  I have already located various Norwebb/Norweb family members in the General Cemetery archives.

Also of
interest to you might be the memoirs of Janetta Norwebb who died circa 1813. These memoirs provide a wealth of information and I have transcribed the lot from the british library copy I managed to borrow for a while. 

I have managed to trace the Norwebb name now back to 1700's and have found family members in America, Canada, Australia, Botswana as well as England.  Also Janetta has connections to wealthy merchants in Madiera and Scotland - so we are quite spread out. 

If you manage to locate a Norwebb or Norweb then it is 99.9% likely they are related as I have found connections for all Norwebbs traced so far and have been led to believe it was a made up name.

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Re: Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 December 11 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Also the name James appears throughout the Norwebb line over and over again - as does Elizabeth, Ann, William and John

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Re: Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 December 11 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Susan

Thanks for your post.   Its my friend's family tree that I am tracing and each step of the way along the Norwebb trail I have become more jealous wishing it was my family!  The memoirs was almost the final straw, what an amazing legacy!

So if you don't mind a few questions.

(1) Have you had any luck finding the marriage of Thomas Norwebb to Janetta at Gretna Green?
(2) I've found James Norwebb's baptism in 1766 but have you found baptisms for either brother George or Thomas?
(3) Have you found any information on Thomas Norwebb Snr's birth, details of either of his 2 sisters or his parents marriage?

Damian


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Re: Nottingham area - Norwebb - burial
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 December 11 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Susan

Thanks for your post.   Its my friend's family tree that I am tracing and each step of the way along the Norwebb trail I have become more jealous wishing it was my family!  The memoirs was almost the final straw, what an amazing legacy!

So if you don't mind a few questions.

(1) Have you had any luck finding the marriage of Thomas Norwebb to Janetta at Gretna Green?
(2) I've found James Norwebb's baptism in 1766 but have you found baptisms for either brother George or Thomas?
(3) Have you found any information on Thomas Norwebb Snr's birth, details of either of his 2 sisters or his parents marriage?

Damian



Well you seem to know more about the early Norweb/bs than I do.  I have not found Janetta (jenetta) and Thomas's marriage record.  I just have her burial information in Wrawby, Lincoln

George was her youngest child and I have located a George Norweb born in cira 1811 mentioning that he was born st St Mary's Nottinghamshire but that would mean this George Norweb was born 6 years before Janetta's death and cannot therefore be the george norwebb we seek.  I cannot locate another record of George Norwebb or Thomas Norwebb Junior.  Thomas Norwebb (jr) supposedly died aged 36  3 months after receiving a kick from a horse.  He was known to be a waster of a lad.  George, apparently, joined the Lincoln Militia but later deserted them and went to leghorn (then said he was off to America and his mother never heard from him again)  He supposedly married a woman who lived in Louth when he deserted her.  He worked in a shop in Alford (trade directories would need to be consulted here) which I believe Thomas Norwebb Snr owned so it is more than likely this was a watch/clock repairing shop.  George moved from Alford to Southwell Nottinghamshire where he was a manufacturer of sorts.

I would love to know more about Thomas Norwebb (sr) and his two sisters and where you have gleaned that information?  Anything would be of use. 

I have found one possible early Norweb
Dina Norweb born circa 1704  Baptised in Swyre (Dorset, England) 2nd January 1704 
Dina's father was called Benjamin Norweb (who must have been born somewhere in 1600's but cant find record of him anywhere else. (Not too sure about the transcription though from looking at original parish register)