George SUMMERS

[majm]

Perhaps this would be John Peisley's father

(NSW SRO Index) PEISLEY Thomas ex the Agamemnon 1820 born Northampton
Trial at Bathurst CC and T of L 51/43 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/62045410 26 February 1848 Bathurst Advocate
Thomas Peisley, convicted the previous day cattle stealing, was sentenced seven years' hard labour on the public roads or works


Still no closer though to finding George Summers...

Edit to Add

I wonder if perhaps any of these NZ birth registrations are part of this particular George Summers tree . The parents are indexed as George and Elizabeth (Summers)..
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/home/

1873 George;   1876  Hannah;   1878 Elizabeth;  1880 Albert Hall;  1883 Frederick Wallace;   

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14009902 SMH 3 May 1895
  "  HANKEY-SUMMERS.-April 27, at Sydney, by the Rev. G. Walters, Sydney Alers Hankey to Kathleen Amy Summers  "

Alas, No mention of their respective parent/s

#2242 gives Kathleen A Summers and Sydney A Hankey registered in Sydney
and
#2342 gives Kathleen F Summers and Sydney H Hankey registered in Sydney. 

I haven't found any births registered in NSW to this couple.  

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Perhaps a sibling for Kathleen Amy Summer's husband "Alers" ?

DEATHS.Fi HANKEY.— Killed in action, at Paardeberg, on or about the 18th February, while serving with the Mounted Infantry, Lieutenant Hugh Martin Alers Hankey, 2nd Battalion Royal Warwickshire Regi ment, aged 27 years. Eldest son of Robert Alers Ilankcy, of 1, Chesham-plaee, Brighton, England, formerly of Warcowie, South Australia, and grand son of Mrs. Bakewell, Shirley, Payneham.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/56553746 Saturday 21 April 1900 South Australian Register

But Kathleen's father remains elusive...  Perhaps he is mentioned on her m.c. ....

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Earlier threads by others looking for Kathleen

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=382591.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,382178.0.html

Fingers crossed these will help Jel.

Cheers,  JM

[jel]

thanks a lot for all your interest and assistance.
Janet

[jel]

I think I am posting a reply to myself here but anyway just wanted to tell "JM" that the links on Kathleen that were sent to me were posted by a family member of mine when I started off my research. Thank you.

[majm]

Thanks, do you think we are on the "right track" for your chap's wife and daughter ....

[jel]

Yes, thanks, I know all about them, it's just George Summers himself that I don't know much about. I would like to know where he lived and what businesses he had (D.C. shows he was a draper) I would like to know when he arrived and on what ship and where he lived in Victoria and NSW besides Orange. He must have moved from Orange at some stage, maybe to the sydney area. His daughter, kathleen, was educated at the Brisbane Girls college In North Sydney. I would also like to know what happened to his parents. Did they come out with him? Did they stay in victoria? Did they even come to Australia? I can see on the NSW BMD's that there are three David Summers that died in NSW, two in 1854 and one in 1870. At this stage I don't want to go and order all these certs, they could be the wrong ones. I still need to do a lot more digging around. Shipping records are just awful to go through but I am trying to get through them. Found a few Summers but of course have no idea if they are my family.

[majm]

Hi there,

Do you have copy or transcript copy of George's
a) marriage certificate
b) death certificate

To my way of thinking, these would be important documents to learn about him.  If you have that m.c., and if by chance there are blanks re his then age, or his parents or the like, then that is simply because the NSW BDM office has not yet completed the reconciliation process for many of the marriages from those decades pre WWI.  The information was given to the clergy by the bride and groom (naming their respective parents, their fathers occupations, details of any previous marriages for the bride and/or groom etc) .... So that information should still be in the parish records for the church in which George and Elizabeth were married.

His death certificate should give you confirmation about his parents names, his marriage/s, spouse/s and child/ren .... his then occupation, etc, as well as the burial information, and how long he had been in the colonies, The d.c. should also name of the informant, which is often a way to appreciate any possible flaws in that information, for afterall, information on a d.c. is only as reliable as the informant's own understanding. 

I am only NSW centric, so I do not know a great deal about Vic resources, but as you are Melbourne based, perhaps your State Library may be a good place for you to start .... I was not aware your George had been in Victoria.

Hi, I was just reading what has been noted down by yourself re a resident of the Liverpool Asylum in NSW Australia and I was wondering if you would be able to help me with some information. I am looking for information on a George Summers who died in the Liverpool Asylum on the 3 January 1900. Apparently he was buried in the Pionee Park in Liverpool on the 4th January 1900 as a pauper. George Summers was born in Scotland in 1838 and came out to Austrlia in the 1850's. He was either a baker or a draper and lived in NSW for 35 years. He married Elizabeth Amy Peisley in 1874 and they had one daughter, Kathleen Amy Summers who was born in 1875. I don't live in NSW but in Melbourne so it is difficult to obtain this information. Thank you in anticipation of some assistance!!

Cheers,  JM