Martha Bramwell

[mandalan]

Hi Lyne
I would love to see the info you have on the Bramwells,Ralph was my great  grandfather and Martha was my G  grandmother,and Anthony Bramwell who was born in 1897 was my grandfather.
Bramwell has been a christian name in my family since him and my youngest son has it in his name too,and I have always wondered where it came from,we had been told that it had irish origins,but it sounds as if that is,nt right.
many thanks Mandy .

[NettieS]

Hi Mandy,

I have quite a bit of information on the Bramwells, I always assumed that the Bramwells originated from Bolton because that is where my grandfather was born, however the more I delved into the family history I found out that Ralph was born in Tideswell, Derbyshire.

Tideswell seems to be the epicentre for the Bramwells and there are several different lines of Bramwells that come from Tideswell, as of yet myself and other distant relatives who I am in contact with have not found a connection with our line of Bramwells and the other lines.

I have your G grandmother Martha's brother James in my tree and his children and there is a picture of him and his wife somewhere that I will have to look for. Wierdest thing for me was that looking at the photo of James I could see a good likeness of my grandfather.

Maybe the irish orgins come from Ralphs third wife Mary O'Connor, I dont know in all honesty as the line I am descended from is Ralph and his first wife Martha Oldfield. But at the end of the day we are all descended from Ralph, so I suppose we are very distant cousins not sure how many times removed lol.
However I do know that in Scotland some peoples middle names are surnames of grandparents, so maybe there is a scottish connection in the family somewhere.
I will have to get all my information sorted out for you and Bill and then send it to both of you.
Regards
Lyne

[mandalan]

Hi Lyne,
many thanks for your reply.
I think my line comes from Ralph and his second wife Racheal Balshaw,they had Martha and James,as far as I can work out the irish connection is through Marthas husband Anthony, and it seems that Martha wanted to keep the name Bramwell somewhere in the family so gave it to my grandfather Anthony Bramwell.
Its been a real revalation to find out that we started out in the north (well its the north to me !)as my grandfather was born in Croyden and my father was born in Dover and i was born in Dorset!ane we had always thought that one generation before that were from ireland,thats athe problem with the chinese whispers of family stories!
I would love to see the photo if you get the chance
    best regards Mandy .

[mandalan]

Hi Lyne, yes I am on face book as Amanda wells,it would be great to hook up on there.what name do you use?I will look for you .

[NettieS]

Hi Mandy,

 As far as I know Ralph didnt have any children with Racheal Balshaw, Mary O'Connor is the mother of Martha and James.
Racheal died in 1852, Ralph married Mary in 1855, which I think is the year Martha was born and James was born in 1857
Lol there must be something about the name Anthony in the family.
 Well at least our family is well traveled.
Regards
Lyne

[mandalan]

Hi Lyne,thanks for the info about Marthas mother,my friend started the research for me a few weeks ago and i think he must have made a mistake along the way.I must admit the amount of info is incredible and it is going to take me a while to sort through it all !
I have a Thomas Jordan as the father of Anthony,he was born in 1827 and married to Mary Carraher,but i dont think that is right,so I will have to sift through all the info I have and try and make sense of it!
best wishes Mandy 

[NettieS]

Hi Mandy,

There are some family tree's on some sites which are to do with our line of the Bramwell family, however a couple of them do have some mistakes in. Like saying Racheal Balshaw was Martha and James mother, your friend didnt make the mistake he probably saw the incorrect information in more than one family tree and presumed it was correct.

There is more information to come a heck of a lot more.

Regards
Lyne