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Deciphering of A Will
« on: Wednesday 27 July 11 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I could really do with some help deciphering this will. All of it is difficult but there is a part I really need to decipher. It's the part about the children of his son John Humphrey Munt. If anyone could tell me what it says asap I would be very very grateful! The will was proven in 1849 in London.

Thank you ever so much,
Elissa
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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 16:42 BST (UK) »
And if any of my late sons John Humphrey munt´s orphan children may make it****** to attend my funeral let them be provided with a bit of grape and a pair of warm gloves each and i should wish that my funeral expenses should not exceed the sum of *** or *** pounds as *** or ***and i further request that there may be no munts in attendance at my funeral and i so hereby nomínate ***** and hereby appoint Mr William ***** of 30***** street street cheapside in the city of London


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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 16:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Elissa

Something like...

as follows first a good plain ... coffin pitched within and the shoulder saw cut(?) also and...black cloth to hide the defects in the wood...let me be buried.  And further request that there may be only six to follow me, that is my son and my 3 daughters and my 2 executors with ... hatbands and gloves.  And if any of my late son John Humphrey Munt's orphan children can make it ... to attend my funeral let them be provided with a bit of crape and a pair of warm gloves each.  And I should wish that my funeral expenses should not exceed the sum of 6 or 7 pounds as near as possible.  And I further request that there may be no ... in attendance at my funeral.  And I do hereby nominate, constitute and appoint Mr William S... of 30 Wood Street, Cheapside in the City of London, Gentleman ....

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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 17:03 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much both of you, that is very helpful. Would you mind if I put a bit more up, it was the bit about the children I really needed to understand, but I'd like to know what he did with the rest of his posessions.

Thanks again,
Elissa
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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 17:05 BST (UK) »
Here's an extract from the start. Don't think i'm asking you to do it all, I really appreciate what you've already done.
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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 17:07 BST (UK) »
I think in the first extract it says "...no mutes in attendance at my funeral".

Linda
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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 17:11 BST (UK) »
I was considering mutes, but thought it a very strange thing to say!

Edit: I have since look-up what a mute at a funeral is and apparently it's someone who leads the prosession so that makes sense.
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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 17:15 BST (UK) »
Mutes were very common at Victorian funerals, I think. They were employees of undertakers, and would attend the funeral, wearing black and looking sad. Professional mourners, in other words. Sounds weird now, but not so then!

Linda

Edit: Sorry, just seen your edit!  ;D
Francis, Sopp, and Durrant: all in Dorset, Somerset, Wiltshire and Hampshire.
Durrant: Toronto, Canada; Los Angeles, California, USA.
Poynter, Fidler. Rolfe, Hedges and Scorey: all in Hampshire.
Allen: Dorset/Somerset/Wiltshire, and Longford, Derbyshire.
Miles: Bournemouth.

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Re: Deciphering of A Will
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 July 11 17:34 BST (UK) »

Line 1: Elme Coffin
Line 2: Brass Nails

Have heard it said that mutes in this context could actually be people without the power
of speech.

vv.