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28/05/1918 death, background info pls
« on: Friday 22 July 11 23:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone
Doing tree for friend & her dad asked me to find out abt his two Gt uncles who died in WW1 years. His grandad Andrew Cochrane was one of three brother the others Thomas & Hugh. Said one died at docks & one in the Battle of the Somme, didn't know which.

Found death of Hugh Cochrane
Rank: Corporal
Royal Engineers
Unit, 97th Field Coy.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 28/05/1918
Service No: 46075
Additional information: Son of Hugh and Elizabeth Cochrane, of 23, Fleet St., Belfast.
Memorial Reference: Panel 10 to 13. Memorial: POZIERES MEMORIAL
From date of death am I right in thinking didn't die in Battle of Somme? If so can anyone help me with where & what battle he died in. Also can anyone give me his service record.
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Re: 28/05/1918 death, background info pls
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 July 11 00:08 BST (UK) »
This is probably not your friends family but it's a strange coincidence

COCHRANE, THOMAS
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 25/03/1918
Service No: S/8075
Additional information: Son of Hugh and Margaret Cochrane, of 65, 3rd Block, Fallin, Stirling. His brother Hugh also fell
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Re: 28/05/1918 death, background info pls
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 July 11 00:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole
No not his brother, Interesting story on Thomas. Didn't want to put it in main post as thought it would be too long lol.
Found Thomas on Belfast City Burial site. but info was wrong

Name of deceased Thomas Kitchen Cochrane
Last place of residence St George'S Dock Hull 23 Fleet St
Age20 Years
Date of death30 May 1916
Date of burial 4 June 1916
CemeteryCity Cemetery Grave section and number F2 304
From this thought he died in docks at Hull. Just by chance & I don't even know why i looked for him, when I found Hugh Cochrane on the Commonwealth war graves site, I looked for Thomas. Even though I knew when he died according to Cemetery details I extended my year search & bingo this came up.
  COCHRANE Initials: T Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Ordinary Seaman Regiment/Service: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M.S. "St. George." Age: 19 Date of Death: 12/11/1915 Service No: CH/SS/5098 Additional information: Son of Hugh and Elizabeth Cochrane, of 23, Fleet St., Belfast. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: F2. 34. Cemetery: BELFAST CITY CEMETERY
This boy wanted to be found.

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Re: 28/05/1918 death, background info pls
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 July 11 00:46 BST (UK) »
That's great.  I know many families lost more than one son in the war but I still find it so sad
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 July 11 00:53 BST (UK) »
Yes it was, found out that Thomas & two others drowned in an accident.

Would you know if it only says panel number for Hugh Cochrane does this mean he has no grave.

At least Thomas is buried with his parents.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 July 11 01:20 BST (UK) »
What's even stranger Carole is that, even though boys from Ireland have traced family back to Alloa Stirling in Scotland.

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Re: 28/05/1918 death, background info pls
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 July 11 00:28 BST (UK) »
Hi

That Stirling connection is weird given the memorial I found above

Re: grave for Hugh etc - if you go back to the cwgc entry for him and click on POZIERES MEMORIAL - it gives a lot of info including this extract:

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The Memorial commemorates over 14,000 casualties of the United Kingdom and 300 of the South African Forces who have no known grave and who died on the Somme from 21 March to 7 August 1918.
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Re: 28/05/1918 death, background info pls
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 July 11 10:24 BST (UK) »
A 'Naval History' website gives the date of Thomas's death as 12/11/1915, - when three seamen drowned from HMS St George, an ex-cruiser used as a depot ship.
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 July 11 11:10 BST (UK) »
Good morning A

Does it give any more information, where they where etc. I've spent hours surfing the web looking for info on the ship, have some really nice photo's, but can't find anything abt what happened. I did find what someone had wrote on a forum that the St George depot ship at Salonica 7/7/18 - 1/7/19.
What is a depot ship? Would really like the service records for these boys but as of yet no replies. Fingers crossed lol. Do you know if there is a special forum on here to ask for service records?

Hello Carole,
Found that info yesterday lol, seems alot of unknown boys buried there, think because it only gives panel no ref for Hugh he is one of them. So Sad.

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Washy