Author Topic: Kinney/Kenny/Carnbane Mill  (Read 2968 times)

Offline les972

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Kinney/Kenny/Carnbane Mill
« on: Friday 22 July 11 11:08 BST (UK) »
My great grandma was Mary Ann Kinney although on the certificate she is down as Mariane Kenny
parents Mariane and Edward Kenny (miller) born at Carnbane Mill. 23/3/1856.
It would seem that Carnbane Mill has completely disappeared with no records or photographs.
Edwards full name was Edward Corry Kinney and he was also a farmer from Lisdrumgullion.
Edward remarried Elizabeth Liness 16/5/1867 and died Lisdrumgullion 11/3/1880. I have no information whatsoever about the mother of Mary Ann.
Mary Ann aged 17 married Henry Grant butcher aged 20 address Newry on 11/3/1874. Henry's father is shown as John Grant gardener and one of the witnesses was a David Grant. The wedding was at the Parish Church at Mullaglass. The first child of Henry and Mary Ann was registered in Co. Down. Henry and Mary Ann with son moved to Liverpool and Mary Ann died very young in 1898.
Can anyone throw any light on any of these or even Carnbane Mill please.
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Re: Kinney/Kenny/Carnbane Mill
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 July 11 12:21 BST (UK) »
Don’t know if you have seen Edward’s will. Here’s the abstract:

The Will of Edward Corry Kinney late of Lisdrumgullion County Armagh Farmer deceased who died 11 March 1880 at same place was proved at Armagh by the oath of Elizabeth Kinney of Lisdrumgullion the Widow and sole Executrix. Effects under £100

You can see the will itself on the PRONI website. www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm  It was dated 25th May 1867, just after his 2nd marriage and mentions his wife Elizabeth and his 2 daughters Mary Anne & Sophia Kinney, both then still minors.

Griffiths shows Edward Kenny in 1864 having plot 1 in Lisdrumgullion, which consisted of a house, offices and 10 acres of land. The 1860s map shows a corn mill marked on the plot. The modern A27 road runs through the middle of his land today, near Carnbane Gardens.

Edward’s 2nd marriage gets a mention on the RosDavies website, where it gives his age as 58 in 1867.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/K/KinKit.htm

Have you tried Newry Historical Society in case they perhaps hold old photos of the mill?

www.busdir.net/detail/212688/newry-historical-society.html
Elwyn

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Re: Kinney/Kenny/Carnbane Mill
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 July 11 17:33 BST (UK) »
Hello Elwyn. Thank you very much for the information, unfortunately, so the story goes, Edward told Mary Ann that if she went to England with Henry Grant then she would be written out of the will and it would seem that is what happened as Mary Ann got nothing at all. I suppose there is a later will than that one.
Les

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Re: Kinney/Kenny/Carnbane Mill
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 July 11 17:52 BST (UK) »
The Will on PRONI website would be the one that was probated. Perhaps Edward never got around to re-writing the Will.
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Re: Kinney/Kenny/Carnbane Mill
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 July 11 18:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that aghadowey.
I wonder if I could still have a claim on the will after all these years considering that my great grandma [Mary Ann] got nothing. I know it was always felt that she was hard done by, but nobody ever challenged the will because Edward had told her she would be written out of it and we all assumed that he had made a new will.
 Never mind a claim I would settle for finding out about the mill itself as that seems to have disappeared from the record books and also about Mary Ann's mother Edward's first wife but she also seems to have disappeared.

Les