Cant find Marriage Record

[steviej1957]

This is my Great  Great Grandmothers Death Cert ....

Been tearing me hair out for the past year or so, trying to find their marriage Cert.. Her maiden name from her Children birth Cert, says it was Wilson...



Can anybody help Please 

[Mort29]

Same address 37 years later ....

They had a 15 year old in the 1901 census... RG13/Piece: 529 Folio: 7 Page: 6  Deptford St Paul @ 214 Edward Street
 
John H Judge 41 Head of Household born Kent, Smarden?: Gardener (not domestic) Own Account
Jessie Judge 36 Wife born Greenwich
Jessie Judge 15 dau New Cross
Florence Judge 12 dau ditto
Ethel Judge 10 dau ditto
Alice Judge 8 dau ditto
Elsie Judge 6 dau ditto
Mary Judge 4 dau ditto
 


In 1891 census of Deptford St Paul RG12/Piece: 499 Folio 7 Page 7  @ 214, Edward Street.

Jessie states PoB as Blackheath, and theres an older dau Emily c1884 New Cross




It really should be this marriage - but no male names match 

Marriages Mar 1885 
 
BIRD  Harriet    Dartford  2a 509   
Ceaves  William     Dartford  2a 509   
Warren  George Arthur C     Dartford  2a 509   
Wilson  Jessie Mary A     Dartford  2a 509

 

Looks like Rosie has cracked it - see her later post ... 
 

[rosie99]

There is a marriage in 1882
Jessie Mary Ann Alcroft Shephard Perren father George Perren decd Jessie is age 18 ie born 1864

8th April 1882 St James the Great Tower Hamlets
John Henry Judge full age father James Judge - both have occupation labourer
John is a bachelor, Jessie a spinster
witnessess  Eliza Andrews and Harriet Gledhill

Rosie

[lizdb]

1891

RG12 499 7 7

shows an older child aged 7

214 Edward Street

John 32 gardener
Jessie 26 bn Blackheath
Emily 7 bn New X
Jessie 5 bn New X
Florence 3 bn Deptford
Ethel 1 bn Deptford
George Barker 65 widower boarder
Thomas Hierous 31 boarder

[Mort29]

NIce one Rosie - I saw that earlier, but FreeBMD have her first forename as Jane 

Flukey that I had a Jessie M A Wilson marrying - but not to a Judge - LOL

[rosie99]

Hi steviej1957

Should have said - Welcome to rootschat     If you need childrens baptism details let us know 

I saw that earlier, but FreeBMD have her first forename as Jane 

I saw that too, it was all the initials that drew me in    Why does rootschat always get interesting when it's my dinner time. 

[carol8353]

Have you found her in 1911- shoudl say how long she's been married and with any amount of luck have older parents (or one of them) living wth her  

Carol

[carol8353]

1891

RG12 499 7 7

shows an older child aged 7

214 Edward Street

John 32 gardener
Jessie 26 bn Blackheath
Emily 7 bn New X
Jessie 5 bn New X
Florence 3 bn Deptford
Ethel 1 bn Deptford
George Barker 65 widower boarder
Thomas Hierous 31 boarder

Next door to this family is a David and Eliza Andrews-from the 1911 index there is an Eliza Andrews with the Judge family 

Carol

[carol8353]

Following on from Rosie's find of the surname Perren,this marriage may be relevant?

Marriages Dec 1881   
 
Andrews  David    Bethnal Green  1c 377   
MIDDLETON  Bannerman     Bethnal Green  1c 377   
PERREN  Eliza     Bethnal Green  1c 377   
STRACHAN  Isabella     Bethnal Green  1c 377   

Carol