All Souls, Kensal Green

[Ruthmez]

Does anyone have a source for transcription of headstone inscriptions and/or photographs of headstones in All Souls Kensal Green Cemetery?  I have had no success submitting the contact form at kensalgreencemetery.com nor any luck at findagrave.com   Looking for my ancestor Edward Stamp, buried  27 January 1872, and his wife, Maria, buried 29 July 1872. They were resident at 4 Albert Villas, Brentford Road, Turnham Green prior to their deaths.

Any information on how to proceed will be much appreciated.  I am in Canada, so a visit is not feasible just now!

thank you

[dawnsh]

Hi Ruth

Friends of Kensal Green have just signed up as new chatters here.

I have tried to send them a personal message abour your topic.

Hope fully they can offer you some advice.

Dawn

[anpefa1]

hello ruth,

turnham green is a long way from north kensington, are you certain that they are interred in kensal green and if so how do you know?

i live 1 minute from kensal green (handy for when my time comes) and depending on the information you provide i can visit and search (bear in mind that the all souls section of kensal green is massive so i need fairly accurate info.

tony

[kensal green cem]

grave transcriptions are not currently available, that is a long term desire of ours. There are 65,000 burial plots at All Souls, Kensal Green cemetery spread across 72 acres containing 240,0000 individuals. So it is a big task! Having said all that the General Cemetery Company www.kensalgreencemetery.com have records of every burial, these are held in their offices at the cemetery. The first step is contact them, and ask them for the grave reference number. Once you have the burial plot number someone can use this to find the actual grave. Aquiring that plot number is the first step, without it you could wander the acres of KGC for years looking for the grave. The graves are NOT arranged in date order or anything llike that. People bought plots randomly. The cemetery does make a small charge (£10-15) for grave searches. If  you have difficulties do contact the Friends of Kensal Green Cemetery www.kensalgreen.co.uk and we can help you, but the first step is to approach the General Cemetery Company.

[Valda]

Hi

As the burial guide for burials in the London area at the top of the London and Middlesex Rootschat boards states, Find A Grave has only 'just over 9,000 returns for the whole of England'. There are well over 150 cemeteries in Greater London alone and many more churchyards. The guide gives links to all the London cemeteries as well as any known 'Friends' who have websites. Where there are any online indexes there is also a link and in the case of Kensal Green Cemetery that is the Anglican (only) Bishop Transcripts held at the London Metropolitan Archives 1833-1872 which are online at Ancestry. Both burials can be found in this source.
When did you submit your contact form to the General Cemetery Company?

http://www.kensalgreencemetery.com/contact/index1.html

I'm presuming there has been no reply?


Regards

Valda

[dawnsh]

Hi Tony

If you're feeling up to a trip, you could take the names and dates into the office and see if you can get a free look-up for the plots 

Depends on who is in the office at the time though.

Having the exact date always helps.

Dawn

[Ruthmez]

Thank you all for your prompt and helpful replies to my post.  My attempts on Friday the 15th to send a contact form to the cemetery did not go through, nor did an email I addressed directly.  I have now sent another contact form asking about the burial plot numbers... this form appears to have gone through successfully, so I assume there was some kind of technical glitch on Friday! ... I have provided both the burial dates and what I assume are the grave reference numbers (?) (53,075 for Edward; 53,882 for Maria) from London, England, Deaths and Burials 1813-1980 at Ancestry. 

Edward Stamp seems to have been an extremely "colourful" character... a Master Mariner who captained the steam transport Emue during the battle of Balaklava, he first visited the Pacific Coast of Canada in 1857 as captain of a ship loading lumber for Australia and subsequently became one of British Columbia's pioneering industrialists.  He apparently had returned home to London to seek financing for a new venture when he had a heart attack and died.  I have been researching him for several years - a picture of his grave would be the next best thing to a visit someday!

best regards to each of you,
  Marna (ruthmez)

[Valda]

Hi

I doubt the Bishops Transcipts give the grave references. The Bishop Transcripts are the equivalent of copies of the burial service register for Anglican (Church of England) burials sent yearly to the Bishop. They are only Anglican burials and the numbers are sequential. So by 29th July 1872 - 53,882 Anglican burials had occurred in the cemetery.  In the actual cemetery registers held at the cemetery will be all the burials - Anglicans and non-conformist.


Regards

Valda

[anpefa1]

hi marna,

the numbers you quote would be inscribed on the rear of the headstone, essential if the front inscription is not legible.

i shall take dawn's advice (as usual) (or else!) and don my cheapest rags (not difficult) and take the begging bowl.

hang in there.

tony