Immigration - UK to Australia - Between 1901 & 1930

[majm]

Confirming Rupert's parents !

Hi there,

From SMH Tuesday, March 20, 1962
KENNA, Hannah March 19, 1962, late of 50 Neridah Street Chatswood and North Sydney, widow of the late William Joseph, and loving mother of (names of ten including firstly Rupert ) and dear mother in law of (names of eight including firstly Doris) and grandmother and great grandmother of their children, aged 79 years.  Requiescat in pace. 

The names of Ruperts siblings and inlaw siblings are on that notice.  I have not typed them up as they may be still living.

From SMH Saturday 13 October 1956
KENNA, William Joseph, October 11, 1956, late of 20 Darley St, North Sydney, beloved husband of Hannah and dear father of (same ten names as in Hannah’s notice, firstly Rupert’s name).  Aged 79 years.  Privately interred on the 12th instant.  Requiescat in pace.


Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Hi,

Perhaps of interest : (remembering there’s that 1904 marriage indexed as registered at St Leonards for William J Kenna and Hannah Saunders #4841)
From Sands Directory 1905
C Saunders, registrar births, deaths, marriages, 9 Fitzroy St North Sydney. 
E Saunders, Alfred St North Sydney
Mrs F Saunders, 6 Chuter St N. Sydney
Fredk Saunders, Orchard Rd, Chatswood
W Saunders, Tulloh St, Willoughby

Perhaps this would be Hannah’s birth (presuming it was in NSW) 
1882, Hannah Saunders, daughter of Joseph and Kate, registered in the Balmain district.
I note that from the 1885 Sands Directory that there was a J Saunders, master mariner, at Bradford St Balmain.

Cheers,  JM

[deeiluka]

One thing I got to mention last night was that the ages given on William Joseph's and Hannah's death notices on the Ryeson Index match the dates of birth found for them both.

Two of their children died in Queensland.....

Margaret Mary KENNA died 25th Apr 1872
Ref = 1872/000659

Edward KENNA died 16th Apr 1888
Ref = 1888/002849


No marriage that I can see in Queensland for the parents though.

Dee,

Margaret wasn't on your original list (see post with listing of all 8 children on it).  Befuddled!


Dee   

Libby, Margaret Mary may either have been born before they arrived in Queensland, or her birth may not have been registered. I think there might also be a son John whose birth I haven't found.

Don't know how much help I'll be tonight.....am under the influence of medication that has really knocked me.      I'm struggling to keep awake.


Dee   

[majm]

Hi Libby and Hi Dee,   (Dee, that medication is probably meant to be good for you !  and you are probably meant to be resting ! )

I am remembering that Dee found various Qld BDM entries indexed, and also of course Dee found the NSW BDM entries indexed including the ones I have followed up that lead to the two notices posted from the SMH newspaper for Rupert’s parents.. (I sent Libby a PM with the full list of the names in those notices).

I am wondering if perhaps there’s a possible naming pattern coming down through several generations, so :
From my own family tree ( I have not uploaded to the internet)  I note that there are quite a number of instances where four or more successive generations in the 19th Century, carry the given names of their parents/grandparents etc, and the given names of the spouses are also repeated generation after generation (and sometimes the males marry a second time with their new bride having same given name as the first wife).  Also, popular names in the late 19th century included William, Joseph,  and also Ellen (Helen, Eleanor, Nellie etc) and Hannah (Anne, Anna, Annie, Hanna etc) .... So it can be confusing, separating the various generations, but BDM certificates usually sort things out, along with the help of RChatters of course.

Here are some links to various free to search sites (these and many more are listed on the various Australian states resources boards here at RChat.  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html   )


There are some passenger lists indexed for arrivals into Qld up to around 1912.  This is the online link :
http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/immigration.asp.  There are various KENNA arrivals .... eg on the ship “Scottish Knight” there is listed a William KENNA who was aged 22, arriving 9 April 1878. That index refers to archival records held by the Queensland State Archives.

There are some passenger lists indexed for arrivals into NSW
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx and
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316

There are of course probate packets containing the NSW Supreme Court’s handling of the process for the administration of wills and estates...
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/    use the simple search option and enter two key words “Kenna death” or “Saunders death” .... then by using the NSW BDM indexes look for the likely d.c. should give you some clues to compare against the recorded names of the deceased’s parents. 

Fingers crossed that by working back from Libby’s Kenna grandparents back through each of their parents, and in turn their parents Libby will advance forwards ! 

Cheers,  JM

[deeiluka]

I just slept for an hour!!!!   

The following looks likely to be about the son Joseph Kenna born 23rd Feb 1864 to Joseph KENNA & Ellen FLEMING......

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ecl/


Dee 

[deeiluka]

Da Dah.......I knew it!
Trove newspapers does it again!

We are on the right track!  This time I'm posting the snip!


Dee         

[deeiluka]

From the Queensland Death Index.....

KENNA Ellen died 1907
Father's name = Francis.
No mother's name given.
Ref = 1907/C2718


Dee   

[majm]

Well found Dee,

Won't Libby be beside herself...

Trove is so very much a treasure trove ...

Cheers,  JM

[deeiluka]

More  interesting snippets ....

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ecm/

and another
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ecn/


Dee