Deegan & Cullen ancestors Dublin

[bartleby]

Hello there, I'm looking to fill in some gaps in my family history on my father's side.

My grandfather was William Deegan b. 1902 to James Deegan and Mary Anne Cullen while living at North Gloucester Place, Dublin. My grandfather had (at least) eight siblings as follows:

Dorothela/Dora/Dorothy b. 1895
Elizabeth b. 1896
Patrick b. 1899 & d. 1908
James b. 1900
Kathleen b. 1903
Michael d. 1904
Margaret b. 1906 d. 1907
John b. 1908 d. 1908.

I have 1901 census records for the family. My grandmother died in 1908 probably in childbirth after which I understand that the remaining sons were sent to Artane industrial school. However, I cannot find any trace of them in the 1911 census records at this establishment (although I have observed some gaps in the listings of 'boarders').

I cannot find any trace of the remaining girls in the 1911 census either and have evidence that at least two of them - Dora and Kathleen - lived past 1911.

My great-grandfather re-married in 1909 to Margaret/Maggie Fagan and they had (at least) two children - Eliza Deegan b. 1909 and James Deegan b. 1910. They lived in Abbey Cottages off Abbey Street, Dublin.

I believe my great-grandfather's mother was Dora Deegan (possibly nee Keating or Kearns/Cairns).

My grandfather William Deegan married Alice Holloway in 1922 and they lived in 113 Dorset Street and subsequently in Brennan's Cottages at the back of 117 Dorstet Street, Dublin.

Would be most interested to hear of anybody who has information on any of these descendants or who is interested in exploring possible links.

[ShayD]

Hi Bartleby, Are you TerryDee by any chance? anyway I hope not as I am in touch with TerryDee, and am hoping to have found another relative that I do not know of, My Grandfather and Grandmother were William Deegan and Alice Holloway No 2 Brennan's cottages. I am in shock as you have given me information that I could not find anywhere, now that I have more information I can proceed further with my research, Thank you, looking forward to hearing from you, Séamus(James) Deegan.

[bartleby]

Hello Shay, yes one and the same I'm afraid. You're Uncle Johnny's Shay, right?I haven't been on Dublin.ie in a long time (TerryDee username) - must give it a view. Hope this info is interesting for you. Give me a shout if you have any questions. Have you researched much yourself? Cheers,  Terry

[ShayD]

Hiya Terry, Yes I'm Johnny's son, Your info has been a great help to me, will be in touch and let you know how far I've got, I'm sure you have more to add. Chat soon, Séamus

[taramcdsmall]

Hi there

Have you see these !

Name JAMES JOSEPH DEEGAN 
Birth 4 July 1900 
Address 8 NORTH GLOUCESTER PLACE 
Father JAMES DEEGAN 
Mother MARY ANNE CULLEN 

Name PATRICK DEEGAN 
Birth 5 August 1898 
Address 17 BUCKINGHAM TERRACE 
Father JAMES DEEGAN 
Mother MARY ANNE CULLEN 

Name DORA DEEGAN 
Birth 1895 
Address 14 LUKE ST 
Father JAMES DEEGAN 
Mother MARY ANNE CULLEN 

Name ELIZABETH JOSEPH DEEGAN 
Birth 1896 
Address 34 ERNE ST 
Father JAMES DEEGAN 
Mother MARY ANNE CULLEN 

Also this is the marriage of James Deegan & Mary Anne Cullen is you want to get their marriage cert !

Name: James Deegan
Date: Apr-May-Jun 1894
District: Dublin South
Volume: 2
Page: 642

This Looks like a possible baptism for your great grandfather

Name JAMES JOSEPH DEEGAN 
Birth 1867 
Address 48T CLARENCE ST 
Father PATRICK DEEGAN 
Mother CAIRN DORA 

If you do think that's his parents then this is their marriage - 22 June 1860 St. Nicholas' Church

Name PATRICK DEEGAN                           DORAH KEARNS 
Address 7 CUFFE ST                                 7 CUFFE ST 
Father ROGER DEEGAN                             WILLIAM KEARNS 
Mother HANNA                                          JOANNAE

These then would be other children of theirs:

 Name MARIA ANNA DEEGAN 
Birth 2 March 1870 
Address 4 WARD ROTUNDA 
Father PATRICK DEEGAN 
Mother DORA KEIRAN 

Name PATRICK DEEGAN 
Birth 1861 
Address 7 CUFFE ST 
Father PATRICK DEEGAN 
Mother DORAH KEARN 

Name CHRISTINA DEEGAN 
Birth 1862 
Address 7 CUFFE ST 
Father PATRICK DEEGAN 
Mother DORAH KEERAN

Hope this is of some use, please double check though !!


Tara

[ShayD]

Fair play to you Tara, With the information TerryDee gave me it let me to exactly what you have posted, I think we are on a winner here, only thing that's throwing me is "Roger Deegan "
Name PATRICK DEEGAN                           DORAH KEARNS 
Address 7 CUFFE ST                                 7 CUFFE ST 
Father ROGER DEEGAN                             WILLIAM KEARNS 
Mother HANNA                                          JOANNAE
The name never carried on? I appreciate your input Tara, Thank you.
James Deegan.

[taramcdsmall]

Ha, maybe he didn't get on with his Dad !!

Here is another child of Roger and Hannah getting married

17 July 1859 St. Nicholas

Name GUILIELMUS HUGHES                      BRIDGIDA DEEGAN 
Address 49 LR KEVIN ST                           5 SKINNERS ALLEY 
Father EDVARDI HUGHES                          ROGERI DEEGAN 
Mother ANNA                                             HANNAE 

Good Luck

Tara

[myluck!]

Do you think there may be something about the name at some stage? My family had a number of Rogers in the 1800s but by the early 1900s there wasn't one left.

[ShayD]

Ha, maybe he didn't get on with his Dad !!

Here is another child of Roger and Hannah getting married

17 July 1859 St. Nicholas

Name GUILIELMUS HUGHES                      BRIDGIDA DEEGAN 
Address 49 LR KEVIN ST                           5 SKINNERS ALLEY 
Father EDVARDI HUGHES                          ROGERI DEEGAN 
Mother ANNA                                             HANNAE 

Good Luck

Tara

Thank You Tara, I had noticed these while trawling through Church records, but never made note of them. After being at a dead end for the past 9mths, I am now getting more information than I had dreamed of.
James