Elmes of Rochestown Old Ross

[mjdgregory]

Can anyone tell me If the old Elmes Farm in Rochestown was built by the Frizells I see that the Frizells did live in Rochestown in the 1700s Please help with any information on the Elmes Family

M.J.D. Gregory

[Summerhill]

The Farm may have been built by the Frizzels indeed. Infact the Elmes & Frizzels were Palatine settlers on Lord Rams lands in the Parish of Old Ross. (Church of Ireland) Rochestown, would indeed be in this area. . St. Marys Church of Ireland ,Old Ross would have been their place of Worship and no doubt you will find numerous entries for them in the parish registers.  If you contact the Rector, St Marys Church of Ireland, the Rectory, College Road, New Ross, Co. Wexford.  Also some members of the Elmes family became Catholics most likely through marriage. The Roman Catholic Church St. Marys Chshinstown , Foulksmills Co. Wexford . Will have entries for their births, marriages & deaths in the parish register. Rochestown is in Cushinstown catholic parish.

I live near Rochestown my self. So if you need any further assistance please let me know.

[mjdgregory]

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY IHAVE POSTED THIS ;
ON THE FRIZZELL PAGE;
Thanks for your reply will be in Foulksmills August 1st -6th at Rose cottage on holiday in the mean time I will try to find a way to send my  address My wife is The Daughter of the late Thomas of Terrarath

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[Peregin]

Hello there.  I am related to the Elmes of Wexford.   My G Grandmother was Catherine Jane Elmes from the Tintern area [Curraghmore] and her father was Edward Elmes.  I think Edwards' father was likely to be a Samuel Elmes Jr., who was married to an Ann McCord although we cannot find any birth records to support this.   Samuel Jr., was the son of Samuel Elmes [1713-1798] of Coolerin, Old Ross.   Samuel senior had three children:-  Thomas who farmed at heathpark,Samuel Jr., who farmed at Ballinruane/Ballycullane , King who was a naval man and Polly a daughter who was his housekeeper.   Some advice on where I might look to find any children of Samuel Jr., and Ann McCord would be appreciated.         

[mjdgregory]

Samuel Elmes of Tintern [The son of Samuel, Samuel William, John,) died aboutJan1822.
Samuel is also mentioned in the Elmes Letters [1798] He fled to England; in a ship belonging to his future Father in law’ [for details see “The Elmes Letters”] on the internet
Samuel married Anne McCord on Jul 7 1901
I HAVE LOADS OF INFORMATION But I thermally ill so I doubt if I can get it to you .
I suggest You get a copy of the book “Old Ross the Town that never was” or get Wexford Archives to photocopy relevant pages.
Extract from John Elmes will  [1697] Edward Elmes, 5th son of my son to, William  provided that whoever shall be in possession of such lands shall pay to his Brothers then living 20 pounds towards their support...

 
Best wishes

[Peregin]

Hi there,
so nice to find another Elmes researcher! Thank you for taking the time to respond given your current health. It is appreciated by my family and I, as the Elmes branch of our tree have been an elusive bunch to track down. Researching the Elmes has been an on-going attempt for some years now by my son and I. So thank you for the information you have already provided on the board.

Let me give you a quick breakdown, of how I believe our Elmes line ties into your Samuel Elmes who married Ann McCord in Waterford at St Patricks COI in 1801.

It is my understanding that Samuel Elmes and Ann McCord had at least two sons; Samuel and Edward, both of whom had farms in Curraghmore /Tintern Wexord.

Edward Elmes married a Catherine (maiden name Unknown) and had at least four Children; there may well have been more: John Powell Elmes, Catherine Jane Elmes, Samuel Elmes and Ann Elmes. Edward would appear to have died in 1866 and appointed John Powell Elmes executor of his will. The Farm in Tintern may have been sold and some/all? Of the remaining Children re located into Waterford.
John Powell Elmes appears to have prospered and became a Justice of the Peace and Insurance Agent. John Powell Elmes’ descendants spawned a line of medical doctors and practitioners. I have only recently established contact with John Powell Elmes’ line they still live in Waterford today. 

Catherine Jane Elmes married my Great Great grandfather James Donnelly, stationed in Waterford Royal Irish Contabulary at the time. They were married at St Olafs Waterford in 1885.

Of the remaining children I have not been fortunate to find any more detail of during my research.

It was around a year ago I came across the Elmes Letters and had the joy of reading some of them; they are without a doubt absolutely fascinating! It was in the letters that I came across the Curraghmore/Tintern farm Connection and thought this must be how my Edward Elmes wound up on a farm there.

I would like to hear more about your line (am I right in thinking that You are descended for Samuel Snr(Elmes Letters), Samuel Elmes Jr(Elmes letters), Samuel Elmes Tintern(Brother of My Edward Elmes)?

Any information you may have and feel you can disclose would be deeply appreciated.  If you wish to communicate via email I can be contacted at: * I have quite a bit of information which I am willing to share.
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