Southern Cemetery Manchester

[hwlambert]

Is there anyone who lives near the Southern Cemetery in Manchester who could visit and take a digital photo of a plot for me please. HRoman Catholic section, grave 645, a family with the name of Turtle.  There are 5 in the plot, Wm 1912, Ellen 1944, Wm 1970, George Alfred 1972 & Mary Elizabeth 1982. 

The reason for this request is that I have conflicting parents for George Alfred Turtle who died in 1972 and I cant find 2 George Alfred's who died in 1972.

Any help appreciated, thanks
Heather
Australia

[Berrie]

Is it the date of birth you need? The George Alfred Turtle who died in 1972 was born on 06 September 1888. I think he was living in Hulme, Manchester in 1891, parents William and Agnes.
One died in Stockport in 1992 dob 15 October 1918.

[hwlambert]

Thanks for your reply.  Yes I wanted the birth date but thought he may be the son of John William Turtle and Ellen and brother of John William and Mary Elizabeth who are in the plot with him.  Might be 15 years out with age though.

I would like to know if those in the plot are parents and their children or related in some way and perhaps where they were born.

Thanks
Heather

[Berrie]

The George Alfred Turtle born 1904, son of John William and Ellen Turtle may be the one who died in Eastbourne in 1972, dob 28 June 1904.

[Berrie]

I think John William Turtle born 1876 and George Alfred Turtle born 1888, were brothers, sons of William and Agnes.

[Berrie]

Looks like the grave in Southern Cemetery is that of John William Turtle, who died 1912 aged 36, wife Ellen who died 1944 aged 66, son William born 1908 who died 1970, son George Alfred born 1904, who died 1972 and daughter Mary Elizabeth born 1902, died 1982, brother, nieces and nephews of George Alfred Turtle born 1888! All these George Alfred's get confusing!

[hwlambert]

Confusing for sure.  So the George Alfred Turtle buried in 1972 in the plot is not the one born in 1888 as stated on the death index.  Will check this out.  Looks like 2 George Alfred's died in 1972, now need to find the other one on the index who died in Jun qtr in Manchester.  I agree I think he is the brother of John William too.
Thanks so much.
Heather

[Berrie]

You would have to pay to look at the actual images of the burial records to be sure who is in the plot. The image gives the age and address of the person buried.
The online cemetery records don't give records of cremations but you may be able to get that info from the cemetery.
George Alfred Turtle died Manchester 1972, born 06 September 1888.
George Alfred Turtle died Eastbourne  1972, born 28 June 1904.
George Alfred Turtle died Stockport 1992, born 15 October 1918. I think he was the son of a George Alfred Turtle who married Edith Warren in 1909! In the 1911 census they had a son Leo and could have had other children, Edith 1913, George P 1918 and Mary J 1924.
Hope that's of some help!

[hwlambert]

Yes its a big help, thanks.
I am after Leo's family from his father George Alfred b. 1888 back so thank you.  If anyone can find where the other George Alfred Turtle b.1888 who died in 1972 is buried I would be an extremely happy camper!
Heather