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William McKinlay born c1784
« on: Thursday 14 July 11 23:57 BST (UK) »
Hello,

William McKinlay born Douglas c1784 died 1867 married Margaret Stewart/Stuart born c1791 died 1865

Below is what we know:-

James McKinlay born 1816 Hamilton occup coal miner  died 1871.Married 3 times & 12 children.

William McKinlay born 1830 Douglas ocup coal miner died 1895. Married Margaret ? she died in 1895. (buried Cambusnethan Cemetery with Mary McNeil). She was 1st wife of brother James b1816.

Edward McKinlay born 1830 Douglas occup coal miner. Assume he is also buried in same Cambusnethan plot with Mary McNeil, William & Marg. Edward interred 1906.
Edward had a daughter Jean age 8 in 1861.  *Cambusnethan Churchyard on Greenhead Road located in Wishaw on the road to Newmains.

Look forward to hearing from anyone with links or connections to this particular McKinlay Family.
Lanarkshire Scotland - McKinlay, Stewart, Scott, Cunningham, McConnell, McLean
Forres Morayshire Scotland - Dunbar, Fraser, Cook, Hoyes, Bell, Rose
Contin Ross Shire Scotland - Munro, McKenzie, Cameron
Clackmannanshire Scotland - Paton, Gibson

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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 April 15 21:09 BST (UK) »
Hi there
I think possibly we are looking for the same family ties - Margaret McKinlay/George Gardner :)
We are heading to Scotland in May and have been trying to find information on Margaret's home area of Newmains.  It was interesting to see the photo of the headstone.  We would be keen to know how to find it, if that's possible.
Kind regards Anne and David Gardner 

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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 April 15 17:56 BST (UK) »
This topic has been discussed on RC before and, just to refresh everyone's memory, here are the burial records from Cambusnethan old churchyard and the adjoining cemetery. Also, another picture of the headstone.

First of all, the plot owned by James McKinlay in 1844 is in the old churchyard, not the cemetery. Much of the churchyard has been cordoned off due to the unsafe nature of the 17th century ruined church and the surrounding headstones. This particular stone is situated at the very front part of the burial ground, between the ruins and the main road, a few stones away from the famous "Giant Baby" headstone. It may be possible, with care, to access this area.
This plot could not have originally belonged to the McKinlay family. James may have purchased it from a previous owner or, it may have belonged to the McNeil family and he inherited it through Mary. My reason for this is, James' parents are not buried here. They are together in a plot in the new cemetery, in an area reserved for short-term leases. People could buy a plot in this ground for a period of 20 years. It would probably be reused after that time. I do not know how exactly this method worked but, that's where they are. They are in plot 135.
Margaret was buried there on 13th February 1865 aged 74 years. Her parents were James Stewart & Grace Cunningham.
William was buried on 12th August 1867 aged 83 years, his occupation was given as "hostler", which I think, is something to do with stabling horses. (We have had this conversation on this List already about this occupation, it was this that jogged my memory).
William's parents were William McKinlay & Marion Scott.

There are several children belonging to James McKinlay and Mary McConnell (or sometimes McConville) buried in the old churchyard during the 1860s. James was buried there on 18th August 1871 aged 55 years, occupation colliery manager, address - Fernigair House. His parents were William McKinlay & Margaret Stewart.

The next plot to the McKinlay one was owned by the Sneddon family and there is an infant McKinlay girl buried in it, Margaret aged 1 year, 18th April 1898. The plot book doesn't list parents, which is too bad.

Ann1eg, I can find no reference to the McKinlay/Gardner marriage that you mention. What sort of time period was this? And, what makes you think there is a connection to this particular McKinlay family?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=543873.msg3977387#msg3977387

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Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 April 15 08:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Lodger
Thanks for the interesting facts about William McKinlay. The reason why I thought there was a tie up was because I was referring to GPaton's  reply as there are Paton's on our McKinlay/Gardner family line.


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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 04:46 BST (UK) »
Hello Lodger,
Many thanks for posting information in regard to the Headstone & in particular the additional info on James McKinlay who was buried there 1871. I have been searching for his burial place for some time!
James married 3 times, his 3rd wife Mary McConnell emigrated with her surviving children to New Zealand in 1874. Their eldest child Mary McKinlay is my husband's great grandmother.

You inquired about the McKinlay/Gardner connection. James Mckinlay and his first wife Mary McNeil had 2 children - William (emigrated to Novia Scotia) & Margaret (emigrated to New Zealand). She married George Gardner in New Zealand and had several children all born NZ.

James McKinlay & Mary McConnell surviving children in New Zealand also married and there are several McKinlay descendants here in NZ and Australia.

You mentioned there are several McKinlay children buried in the old churchyard. I am still looking for the burial place for Thomas born 1868, John born 1866, Marion born 1862.

Many thanks for the McKinlay information, much appreciated. regards Glynnis Paton

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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Glynnis,

Here are the three childrens' burial details. Although it only states "old churchyard" they will of course be in the McKinlay plot.

MARION McKINLAY, Hamilton, aged 7 weeks.
Parents - James McKinlay & Mary McConville.
Old churchyard on 1st December 1862.

JOHN McKINLAY, Hamilton, aged 3 weeks.
Parents - James McKinlay & Mary McConnell.
Old churchyard on 26th March 1866.

THOMAS McKINLAY, Shawsburn, aged 9 months.
Parents - James McKinlay & Mary McConnell.
Old churchyard on 30th September 1869.

Shawsburn was mining village across the valley from Wishaw, in the parish of Dalserf.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 11:31 BST (UK) »
Hello Lodger,
Many thanks for the McKinlay children info. Is it possible to obtain a photograph of any of these McKinlay headstones?

All the best, Glynnis
Lanarkshire Scotland - McKinlay, Stewart, Scott, Cunningham, McConnell, McLean
Forres Morayshire Scotland - Dunbar, Fraser, Cook, Hoyes, Bell, Rose
Contin Ross Shire Scotland - Munro, McKenzie, Cameron
Clackmannanshire Scotland - Paton, Gibson

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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 15:31 BST (UK) »
The only McKinlay headstone is the one already on this page, sorry.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: William McKinlay born c1784
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 May 15 01:26 BST (UK) »
Hello Lodger,
Is it possible to obtain a photograph of James McKinlay's parents stone.
They are together in a plot in the new cemetery, in an area reserved for short-term leases. They are in plot 135. Margaret was buried there on 13th February 1865 aged 74 years. Her parents were James Stewart & Grace Cunningham.
William was buried on 12th August 1867 aged 83 years, his occupation was given as "hostler".

Further to William's occupation, in his youth his occupation was recorded on Census as Coachman. So I guess he always had something to do with 'horses'.

Thanks to your info re the parents I now have another family line to research!
All the best, Glynnis
Lanarkshire Scotland - McKinlay, Stewart, Scott, Cunningham, McConnell, McLean
Forres Morayshire Scotland - Dunbar, Fraser, Cook, Hoyes, Bell, Rose
Contin Ross Shire Scotland - Munro, McKenzie, Cameron
Clackmannanshire Scotland - Paton, Gibson