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SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« on: Tuesday 12 July 11 08:46 BST (UK) »
Looking for a family with the surname Sad, Sadd or Sade in or near the town of Terrington, Norfolk.  It is possible that the name was given as a first name to Sad Blade to honour Sad relatives or friends.  We have located John Sadd at the Woolpack Inn at Terrington St. John in 1851 aged 35 but we are looking probably two generations further back for a connection.  Would greatly appreciate any clues. 

Names:  Blade, Arton, Sad

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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 July 11 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi  if you look on norfolk  transcription archives  there are lots of the names you are looking for on there, hope they are some help.


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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 July 11 12:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you, will do that.  I suppose I just Google Norfolk Transcription Archives and see what comes up.
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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 July 11 13:09 BST (UK) »
I suppose I just Google Norfolk Transcription Archive.

yes, that should take you there ...  ;)


Norfolk is also fairly well covered by the Familysearch Pilot site and FreeREG.


Good luck.


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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 July 11 13:21 BST (UK) »
Ta.

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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 July 11 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Jaznjj,

John Sadd, from the Woolpack Inn, is my gr-gr-gr-grandfather.  I have a copy of his marriage certificate to Rosamond Banham and it states that his father's name was Henry Sadd and he was a labourer ... nothing about where he lived, his wife's name (even if diseased), birth year, NOTHING!

According to the 1841 census, it states he was born in Norfolk, then the 1851 and 1861 censuses state he was born in Whaplode Drove (actually a variant of this but close), Lincolnshire and they all say about 1816.  The 1871 census states another place, maybe Crowsland, Lincolnshire.  I have had him searched in Lincolnshire but to no avail ... and I couldn't afford to have him search in Norfolk.  All I have found about him is his father's name, HENRY.  There is one born in Diss, Norfolk abt. 1796 which could be an appropriate age but a woman wrote me to say that my John Sadd was not a member of this Henry's family.  Maybe she's right and maybe not.

I came upon your RootsWeb post because I Googled "john sadd terrington st john" hence the late response.

While searching today, I stumbled on something (can't quite remember now) that made me think that possibly this Sadd family came from Cambridgeshire as I saw some names and places that could match up with the Hubbard family which his daughter Edith "Ede" Sadd (I have a very bad picture of her I could send you) married into; Henry Hubbard was her husband and my gr-gr-grandfather and she my gr-gr-grandmother.

You are the only person I've come across who is searching for this same Sadd (Sad) family; maybe between the two of us we can find out more about them.  And I still think, especially now, that John Sadd does descend from the Henry Sadd of Diss, Norfolk.

Here is my e-mail address: (*) and I can send you material I have found and pictures of the Woolpack Inn (which I understand is gone now, rather recently) but we have a couple of modern pictures of the inn too.  The Woolpack went from John Sadd (who purchased it in 1851) then willed to his daughter Edith Sadd who was by this time Edith Hubbard who willed it to one of her children, my gr-grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Hubbard who married my gr-grandfather, Horace Holdgate and that's how it came into the Holdgate hands (for a short period).  Gramma sold it and the 133 acres of land that came with it and move to Canada in 1913, a widow with her 4 children in tow, one being my grandfather, Herbert Holdgate ... thus the beginnings of another Holdgate line which will end abruptly if my nephew, the one and only Holdgate male left in our line, to carry it on.  They haven't had any babies yet so keep your fingers crossed.

Anyway, e-mail me and I can start sending you things I have discovered and the pictures.

Take care,
Heather Holdgate
Whitby, Ontario, Canada

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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 July 11 21:33 BST (UK) »
By the way, do Blade and Arton names fit into the Sadd family?  Also, do you know what has happened to this line of Sadds?  Are there any around Norfolk or any place?  Did any come to North america, specifically Canada?

That's all.  Thanks.

Heather

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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 August 11 23:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Jennifer,

I was wondering if you gals have a website published or a place where I can see your family tree.

I've been gathering much data on the Sadd/Sad, Arton, Blade, Watson, Dexter and Ryley families (there seems to be a connection; alas, I'm not all that organized yet!).  I'd like to see if I'm on the right track with what I've prepared so far.

Would that be a problem?  I would be especially grateful.

Take care.  (Gotta' get my nephew's Holdgate direct line finished; for certain, 13 generations and most likely the 14th.)

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Re: SAD, BLADE, ARTON
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 August 11 11:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Heather, Can't supply a tree yet, the others have most of the information on the Norfolk connection and are out of touch at present. I focussed on the London connection and the early days in Australia.  We stopped posting a lot of our research publicly because someone we had given information to took our "work in progress" notes and posted them as facts on a website without permission - which means some of the information is potentially incorrect. I stopped adding to my public trees some time ago and one of the projects on my huge list of things to do is to go back over every datum in my tree to ensure I have it right and update once I am satisfied.  My tree on Ancestry is probably riddled with unsubstantiated "facts" I adopted from others' trees without verifying them before I learned better.  My bad!   If you give me a little time I'll put together what I have for you, but my best chance to get it right is to wait for the meeting we have planned for September.  In the meantime I'm flat chat with school work but will do my best for you next weekend.  I am sure there is a connection between the families (Sad, Arton and Blade in particular).  I'm sorry that doesn't give you much to work with in the short term but hopefully there'll be more useful information a bit further down the track.  Jennifer