John Wass

[sunflower]

Hi

I can't see anything on the NW  or Morton transcript.

Sorry

Carol

[Sandymc47]

Hi again

Did find a mention of a Harry Wasse but not his birth but the Father of

Ralph Wasse bapt 3rd June 1595 at Morton Derby
Father Harry Wasse

Also the following marriage

Raphe Wasse married Ann Lownerowe on 14th February 1613 at Morton

Cant find Henry(Harry) christening

regards
Sandymc

[woopom]

thanks so much for looking - have a great weekend!

[matts]

Hello Wendy, just come back from a weeks holiday in Bournemouth, last month l went to Morton also north Winfield, both churches all locked up, very disappointed, N W church yard is really massive, thousends of graves,l walked round for about 2hours & never found one grave stone for any Wass family, could not read a lot of them, Morton was the same but a lot smaller but still could not find any Wass family, if you do go l suggest go on a Sunday morning, when church open (l could not make a Sunday) might have some old records, good luck, Regards June (leicestershire)

[Keithlb]

Some info on the Wass family
1. There is a gravestone at N Wingfield on the right (I think) of the path as you walk up to the church. It is a double stone one side to Lydia wife of John Wass d June 18th 1769 age 79 years also dau Ann wife of Thomas Clark she died Nov 29th 1778. On right of stone is John Wass d Oct 18th 1773 aged 79.
2. This John Wass's will of 1774 mentions children John, Thomas, Ann Clark, William, Joseph. I think he could be the son (bp 1694 Pilsley) of John Wass (bp1671 Pilsley) who was son of Thomas Wass (bp 8 Oct 1643) brother of the John who married Elizabeth Mottershaw.
3. John Wass of Pilsleys will 1728 mentions children John, Ann, Mary and was signed by Jonathan Wass and Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons was husband of Ann Wass the dau of John Wass and Elizabeth Mottershaw. The John Wass whose will was dated 1728 married Rebecca Mottershaw 1703 Chesterfield and I think he was the son of John Wass (bp10 sept 1637)and Elizabeth Mottershaw
4. John and Thomas were 2 of children of Godfrey Wass (bp 14 mar 1611 N wingfield) and Elizabeth
5. starting from the beginning:
Thomas Wass of Pilsley will dated 1567 mentions son Nicholas
Nicholas's will 1606/7 mentions son Richard. He married 1. Isabella Parsons with whom he had Thomas, Francis, Margaret, Alice, Ellen, Mary. Isabella buried 21 Oct 1594 Tupton N Wingfield. Richard remarried & had Isabell and Godfrey
Godfrey married Elizabeth & had at least 10 children including John who married Elizabeth Mottershaw and Thomas who was grandfather of the John who married Lydia
John and Elizabeth Mottershaw had at least 8 children one of whom was Jonathan (John) who married Rebecca Mottershaw
hope this all helps - got loads on Wass family - my grandmother was a Wass - still trying to sort it all out

[matts]

Hi Keithlb, Wow!! wow,  l am very disappointed l missed that grave stone at N Wingfield when l went there last month, you do have a lot of brill info on the WASS family, l have printed you information so l can look threw it carefully, and add to my info, l have got back to Nicholas Wass B 1525 at Morton married a Joanna ? l have lots of bits and bobs dating from that date upto now,( my mother was a Wass) l must sit and sort threw it all, gets a bit confusing, l only found out a while back that the wass family came from Derbyshire, it has taken me over 4years to trace my gt gt gt grandad a James Wass born in Ropsley in 1822 and that was threw Roots Chat, everyone so helpful, only thing is l have never have found out who he married,or if he ever got married, like you still trying to sort this family out, so many children and who married who, Keep the good work up, if you have any questions please ask l will help if l can, Regards June

[Sandymc47]

Hi there

Can I just butt in and say that Ropesley is in Lincolnsire and Rowsley
is in Derbyshire? I have found a James Wass living in Ropesley,
Lincolnshire in the 1861 census.  Are you getting these two villages
mixed up? James is 39 on the 1861 census.
In 1881 James is 59 and his wife Harriet is 65.

regards
Sandymc

[Keithlb]

hello again June & Sandymc
mmm if it is Lincolnshire then may not be a connection to Derbyshire Wass's. There are 2 distinct lines of Wass in Derbyshire, one descending from Nicholas of N Wingfield(will 1606/7) and the other from Henry of Morton/Woolley Moor (will 1641). There are maybe 3 or 4 separate lines in Nottinghamshire from about the same time. There are also other groups in Essex and N Yorkshire which are also separate families from this period. Hopefully you have the right James Wass in 1822. I'll see if I can find more from my info
cheers Keith

[matts]

Hello both, wow this is getting complicated, l am sure the Ropsley which my gggg grandad (James Wass) was born is in Lincolnshire, l have info about his birth showing his  baptism Oct 2nd 1821(sorry l did say before it was 1822)in the lincolnshire archives, his parents are William Wass Ann Williamson,(l believe Willams father was a James Wass B 1757 Foston) l think but might be wrong but William Wass B 1782 also in Ropsley Linc's (who married Ann Williamson in Linc's 1808) parents must have moved from Foston Derbyshire or N Wingfield at some point,

James Wass B 1821  on the 1861 census is my gt gt grandad living with a Harriet also showing  a son John Frederick Wass B 1852 in Spittelgate Grantham, l have John Fredericks birth cert but it  has been altered  from his mother either being a Jane or a Harriet, this is the family l have been having lots of trouble with, Harriet seems to have been born at sea/channel island, l have never found a marriage for a Harriet /James, only a James and a Jane Cook but the Jane has completely disappeared no death very complicated, could go on for hour's about all this, l am sure between us we may be able to sort it all out, Byeeeeee for now June