Governor Richard BOURKE - niece Margaret ?

[majm]

Hi there,

Brief Bio information about Sir Richard Bourke http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/bourke-sir-richard-1806 .... notice that his papers are held at the NSW State Library .... here's a link to the Library http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/

Also have you tried the digitised newspapers at this link .... there may be many mentions of Governor Bourke and family members including possibly your lass http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Cheers,  JM

[hopeful1915]

Thanks, Majm .. I have not been able to spot any mentions of his niece, but had many a happy hour reading the old papaers .. what a boon!  I am feelign more and more doubtful about this claim ... but thought I'd try in case there was a crumb of truth in it.   Have not given up yet ...  but the papers' position in the NSW State library is not all that convenient, being 1500 km away.

Will keep plugging away .. now waiting for Margaret's birth certificate to arrive, though of course, as we know, it will ony tell us what somebody said after she died.  Just had a thought .. since my name has changed a couple of times, too, just like Margaret, I might be wise to draft out the information needed for my death certificate, in case  my ghostly promptings are not clear enough for those left with that sad task when I am gone. I found when my dear Dad died recently that I was the only one of we siblings absolutely on top of all details of Dad's mother's name, etc.  Another benefit of this hobby!

Thanks for all assistance, Trisha

[majm]

Hi there,

Perhaps if you contacted the NSW State Library by email they may be able to check if there is a family tree chart for Sir Richard Bourke in those papers ....

http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/using/contact/index.html

I have found them to be very helpful.

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Hi there,

From the 1903 NSW Electoral Roll for the electorate of THE HUME, and polling place of Gundagai

Alfred HUNT, Punch Street, innkeeper
Annie HUNT, Punch Street, domestic duties
Charles HUNT, Kimo Hill, farmer
Marguerite Mary HUNT, Riverview Cottage, domestic duties

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Re Charles Hunt

From the NSW SRO online index http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

Charles Hunt  of Gundagai died 3 August 1905 and probate was granted 30 Sept 1905. 
M Hunt of Gundagai died 26 Oct 1906, probated 6 May 1907
A Hunt of Gundagai died 23 August 1908, probated 25 Jan 1909

NSW Probate packets often include more than just the will and the administration papers.  From my own experiences, I have found copies correspondence and also copies of bdm certs in the packets of several of my NSW forebears.   And now the NSW SRO offer a copy service for probate packets. 

....There is so much mystery surrounding CHarles that I wonder a lot about them all.  ....

Cheers, Fingers crossed

JM

[majm]

Hi there,

That Bio link for Richard Bourke that I posted earlier gives some family history info :

Richard Bourke was born 4 May 1777 in Dublin.  His parents were John Bourke of Drumsally, County Limerick  and Anne Ryan a daughter of Edmund Ryan of Boscable, County Tipperary .

Richard Bourke married Elizabeth Bourke in 1800.  Her father was also named John Bourke, and Elizabeth was his youngest daughter.

So, re Mrs M Hunt the likely niece for Gov. Bourke  ....  to be his niece she was most likely a daughter either of Richard’s or of Elizabeth’s siblings, and thus perhaps you may need to find her likely parents.  Hopefully she was nee Bourke, but if either Richard or Elizabeth had sisters then perhaps there would be a different nee surname.

Anyway, from the image of that 1800 marriage  for your lass’ possible uncle and aunt ... I read :

Richard Bourke Esq of the parish of Ellingham in the county of Surry and Elizabeth Jane Bourke of this Parish (JM notes this as  St Margaret Lothbury in the City of London), were married by Licence twenty-sixth day of March 1800 by the Rev’d John W Bourke. 

The witnesses signed, but I am having trouble deciphering those signatures....  I think the first witness was surnamed Bourke, but cannot figure out the initials, and I think the second witness was Robert Hugh but cannot figure out the surname.  I will attach a snip, in case the surnames indicate family members for either the bride or groom and thus point towards the family surname for Sir Richard’s niece. 

Cheers,  JM

[hopeful1915]

Thank you all very much for these further clues! Alfred was the only child (by the name of HUNT) of Margaret and Charles ...  "Charles the Mysterious", I call him, but that's another story, which I will ask about one of these days.


I gather there was another Charles HUNT family in Gundagai in the mid-1800s, some or all of whom were swept away in The Big Flood of .. um .. 1850-60-ish. There were a few Big Floods!

I don't think Marguerite Mary HUNT, Riverview Cottage, domestic duties was connected, but have tucked her away.

The Probate information might well be really helpful -  thank you for that suggestion ... I will contact them immediately.

Thanks, Trisha

[hopeful1915]

I think that signature might be Robt Hugh Kennedy  ... not sure baout hte Bourke initials either. 

Trisha

[hopeful1915]

and in case it helps anyone else:

According to the New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 (Governor) General Richard Bourke arrived on the ship Margaret (how confusing!)  on 2 Dec accompanied by his wife (Elizabeth nee Ryan) sons   (John)  and Richard, and daughter (Elizabeth)  .. the bits in parentheses are not on the actual image.

There is no extra Miss Bourke, which isn't evidence really, as the wife died a few months later, and  it's possible that a cousin was asked to come out to be a companion  to the daughter.

Will endeavour to find a way of consulting those correspondence papers ...  though the microfilmed copies still seem a good chance, as according to the Trove record they contain odds and end of correspondence, including some from MIss Bourke to someone on religious matters, i.e. personal stuff.

Happy searching and pondering, all! Trisha