King's Lynn - Search for Robert & Sarah in 1871?

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I have a MC from 7th Feb 1872 which gives the following info:

@ The Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Kings Lynn

Robert STACEY, 21 years, Bachelor, Labourer, Friars Street, South Lynn (Robert STACEY (deceased), Labourer)

Sarah BORLEY, 20 years, Spinster, Pleasant Row, South Lynn (William BORLEY, Policeman)

I have looked for both in the 1871 census but could do with some help/reassurance:

Where is Sarah?
A year earlier, at birth of her daughter Sophia, Sarah BORLEY's address is given as Providence St, just the other side of London Road.  I have found no trace of her on Providence St.  Can anyone find her in Pleasant Row or anywhere in King's Lynn?

Where is Robert?
I had found a Robert STACEY in Hillington Sq on the 1871 census and reckoned this was Sarah's spouse.  According to the MC Robert's father was Robert and had died pre-1872). While Sarah STACEY is a widow in 1871 , the 1861 census suggests Sarah's husband (Robert's father) was called Richard (sheep labourer?).
Can anyone make any sense of this? Have I mixed up families?
No other Robert STACEY seems to fit so well as Richard does!!

I have checked the two Witnesses and they seem to be young friends of the married couple with no obvious links to either family - so no clues there I'm afraid.

[CaroleW]

Have you found them on the 1881 and can you include details of their birthplaces please?  Were they both born in Kings Lynn?

EDIT

Just found Sarah Borley on the 1861 and she was born in Hadleigh Suffolk 1853/1854

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Ah, here's where it all starts to get complicated!!!

If you search Rootschat for Sarah Allan/Borley it will all become (un)clear.

After giving birth to Sophia in Lynn in 1871 and then marrying Robert STACEY in 1872, something caused Sarah to move north to Tyneside where she entered 2 further relationships (no evidence of marriage to either) - Henry Bell in 1881 and William Brown 1891 onwards.

She was presumably still married to Robert Stacey - though Sophia's marriage in 1891 has father as Robert Borley (deceased).  I'm not as yet sure (until certain which Robert Borley we're talking about - hence this post)  but I think Robert lived on in King's Lynn after Sarah and Sophia settled in the north.

Once she has moved north Sarah's age and birthplace vary wildly reflecting either uncertainty or a certain degree of creative dating/ageing.

It's thanks to Rootschat that I am slowly piecing this together and a clearer idea about Robert STACEY and their 1870s time together in King's Lynn would help greatly...

[Mort29]

It would help (on the Stacey side) if they could be found in 1851/41

[CaroleW]

I've just checked 1851 and no Robert Stac** b 1849-1851 (anywhere) with a father Robert

[CaroleW]

1861 has these 2 entries

Robert Stacy 1853 b Camden Middlesex - parents Robert & Emma living in Sussex but father Robert was a Butler

Robert C Stacey b 1854 Hackney Middlesex parents Robert & Emily but Robert was a tobacconist

[heywood]

Ah, here's where it all starts to get complicated!!!

She was presumably still married to Robert Stacey - though Sophia's marriage in 1891 has father as Robert Borley (deceased).  I'm not as yet sure (until certain which Robert Borley we're talking about - hence this post)  but I think Robert lived on in King's Lynn after Sarah and Sophia settled in the north.

Hello - more questions - sorry
Is Sophia's father recorded as Borley or Stacey? Is Robert Stacey named as father on her birth certificate?

heywood

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On Sophia's marriage and christening record (1890, Aged 18 - presumably she was required to be baptised into the RC church prior to marriage) her father is recorded as Robert Borley - I have had to assume that since Sarah reverted to her maiden name, Sophia also used Borley and so they stated this as Robert's surname in his absence during their time in Newcastle. 

No name is given on Sophia's birth certificate for her father.

There is no Robert Borley that fits with the records I have confirmed and so I have had to follow the premise that Robert Stacey is Sophia's father, they married after the birth, and he and 'Robert Borley' are one and the same.

[heywood]

It could be that the father's name given at baptism was for respectability or such and may have been invented.
I do realise that Sarah married Robert Stacey soon after the birth so there is a possibility but it may also be that he is not the father. It is a dilemma.

heywood