Death Cert : Help to find

[carolmcg]

Trying to find the death cert for John McGarrigle B: 24/6/1866 in Port Glasgow.
Married to Bridget Welsh (or Walsh) in Port Glasgow in 1888 occupation given then "seaman merchant service"

Can find him on the census returns until 1901 and his occupation was listed as shipyard worker or seaman on these returns.  Signed his daughters death cert in 1912 but is not noted on the 1911 census - his family were still in Port Glasgow but his wife is not listed as widow or head (just states wife) and he is not listed on the return.

Any help appreciated would like to know when/how he died.

[elaine447]

Hi carolmcg
do you know John's parents names from his birth and marriage cert
may help narrow it down a bit if the informant knew his mothers maiden name
doing a general search on SP there are none that fit with a 1866 birthdate
but then again that would depend on the informant knowing his date of birth
Elaine

[carolmcg]

He was the son of Daniel (Denis) McGarrigle and Gila (Julia) McCoul.
I have his birth and wedding cert but can't find the death. His wife died in 1921 and on it she is noted as "widow of John McGarrigle" Holderon as the occupation.

From the info I have it would have to have been between 1912 and before 1921.
His occupation seems to change between jobs in the shipyards to seaman on the documents over the years.

[elaine447]

Could this be the right family 1881
Address 4 Sinclair Close Port Glasgow
Dennis McGarrigle------1836-Ireland-----Boatyard Labourer
Julia-----------------------1846-Ireland
James--------------------1863-- Port Glasgow-------App Baker
Mary Ann----------------1865-- PortGlasgow--------Spinner
John---------------------1867--Port Glasgow---------Rivet Boy
Margaret----------------1869
Daniel--------------------1871
Jane----------------------1875

1891
Address Sinclair Close Port Glasgow
John McGarrigle ----------------1867--------P.G--------Seaman
Budget-(Bridget)----------------1867--------Ire
Catherine ------------------------1888-------P.G
Julia--------------------------------1890-------P.G
Elaine

[carolmcg]

Yes that is the right family. I have found them in 1881 - 1891 - 1901.
Nothing for 1871(he would only have been around 5 then) and not noted with the family in 1911 census pulled from Scotlands people.

If he was away at sea when the 1911 census was done then I am wondering if his death was connected with his occupation but not sure where to look for these details.

[elaine447]

No John McGarrigle's
on SP in Minor Records this is where you would find his death if he died while at sea as a seaman
although I am not sure if that covers the Merchant Navy

[carolmcg]

Think I am going to have to try and approach this from another angle.

If his wife died in 1921 then chances are she would have been buried beside her husband so if I can get details of the grave I might be able to find out who is in there and what dates they were buried from Inverclyde Council......can't think on any other way to find anything right now

[elaine447]

There is a death for a John McGarr*gle
1921 In Paisley with a birthdate of 1860 +/- 5 years
closest I can find

[carolmcg]

Nope that aint him - parents names for this one were John McGarrigle and Jane Laird