The Crown Inn, Stockport rd, Longsight, Manchester.

[Spatts]

Hi Barbara 

Thats 1901 & 1881 covered, Luzzu & Cancan have helped too, its been a long long task trying to find two brother who went to Australia, one stayed & one returned. Don't think it was the Walkers so now I'm trying the Andrew family, I've put posts on the Lincolnshire site which explains the story better, which have been on there a while & posts on the Australian site.

The pub may hold the clue to this long drawn out search but, I'm not holding my breath. The rings may also hold a clue, so I'm taking them to a couple of jewellers tomorrow or next week, pictures on the Lincolnshire posts.

All posts on each site are posted by spatts. Its getting to be a bit of a story at that.

Thank you for your help, I truely appreciate it.

spatts. 

[nanny jan]

Hi,

1881 (as Andrews) Alfred, Elizabeth,Thomas and Lilly are at 103 Fairfield Road, Openshaw.

1891 Alfred, Elizabeth and Lilly are at 5 Abbey Hey Lane, Openshaw, Fairfield, Manchester.


Nanny Jan

[Spatts]

  Thanks Jan,

I've got Alfred & Elizabeth on the 1901 living with Thomas, wife & kids on Ashton Old road but, for Alfred to be a Iron Moulder all his working life, I was wondering how he could afford the Pub/Coach House, The Crown Inn.

Unless he was one of the two brothers that went to Australia & Alfred was the one who came back. I found one of his brothers living at 13, Abbey Hey lane, William Andrew but he passed away between 1881 & 1891 leaving Milly, his wife & two sons Frederick & Alfred.

Alfred senior had another brother James Andrew b1832 in Dukinfield like William Andrew, b1834. Can't find anything on James after 1861, so maybe James was the one who stayed in Australia???

Thank you for your help Jan, appreciated.

spatts. 

[..claire..]

Found this,

1895 Kellys directory of Manchester.

Andrew, Alfred. Beer retailer, 175 Earl Street, L.


claire

[Spatts]

 :)Thanks Claire,

Do you have a link for the Kelly's Directory of Manchester?

Alfred's daughter Lilly Ann Andrew Was supposed to have been brought up at the Crown Inn according to my mum but, what I don't understand is, I have Lilly Ann in houses on all censuses from being born in 1877 to getting married in 1899 & after.

Is there such thing as a Public Houses Directory??

spatts.

[Cancan]

Hi spatts,

Historical directories free to view!!

http://historicaldirectories.org/hd/

Cancan

[Spatts]

Hi Cancan,

Thanks for the link, I'll have a look after tea.

Hope you got the info I sent you.

spatts.

[Mullpoult]

Hello Spatts
Im not strictly a user of this site but saw your query about the Crown Inn in Longsight on a general internet search.  My Great great grandparents, Robert and Alice Bowman, owned the Crown Inn for a period before 1890 when they both died within a month of each other.  The ownership passed on to their single Daughter Alice Maria, my great grandmother, who was just 20.  Alice Bowman also had two sons who were both born in Australia in the 1860s.  Alice Maria Bowman married a Thomas Shaw in 1891 and had five children.  Thomas died sometime between 1899 and 1901 and Alice Maria remarried in 1903 to a Albert Summersgill and had two more children.  This marriage ended before the 1911 census and she is listed as a Widow however I understand he had remarried.  She died in 1919.
I hope this is of some interest.

[Spatts]

  Hi Mullpoult,

Thank you for that info, I have noted the dates down & it may help in narrowing things down a little more, maybe my ancestors owned it after 1911.

It is something I need to carry on with because of the family rings, I just need to know if the Andrew family did own the pub at one stage or another.

Thanks again,

spatts.