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Re: Prisoners......glass plate photo...When? List now added.
« Reply #63 on: Friday 19 August 11 09:12 BST (UK) »
petewhitehouse99, thanks you have given me a double bonus.

I have a fighting soldier in the Crimean, his family originated from Lancashire, not beeen able to find out much.
So shall be well on the route to him also?

val
HALL....Lancashire    1700s. ......... London, Middlesex , areas Tottenham, Islington, Marylebone  to 1950.

WILDS......London, Middlsex, Tottenham area .......  1820

COOMBS (E)........London Tottenham, Edmonton......1800s 

BENFORD   Kate    Middx
BOLEY        W.S    Middx
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« Reply #64 on: Friday 19 August 11 09:14 BST (UK) »
Spidermonkey,

Did some looking for ozzy2441 on Ances....no luck. May be I'm not doing it right. Looked at member directory and public trees.  Can I ask for your way of getting to him?

Thanks Val
HALL....Lancashire    1700s. ......... London, Middlesex , areas Tottenham, Islington, Marylebone  to 1950.

WILDS......London, Middlsex, Tottenham area .......  1820

COOMBS (E)........London Tottenham, Edmonton......1800s 

BENFORD   Kate    Middx
BOLEY        W.S    Middx
MITCHELL              Middx

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Re: Prisoners......glass plate photo...When? List now added.
« Reply #65 on: Friday 19 August 11 09:35 BST (UK) »
From the search page (I use the old search for what it is worth), just under the green writing "search for records about your ancestors" is a family trees link.  CLick on that, and when the search page comes up, put in Charles Desmond, bn 1877, parents names Charles Desmond and Jane Desmond.  Hope that helps!

Do you want us to have a look for other people on your list?

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« Reply #66 on: Friday 19 August 11 16:30 BST (UK) »
Yes please, then I shall be fully informed when and if I have contact from the searchers.

Have achieved court (although minimal in some cases) records for :

Andrews
Desmond
Dodd
Donovan
Harrison
Edwards
Klein
Jones.....Sarah...not sure if I have the right one. Offence Old Bailey....Sept 1857 (28yrs)
Mould
Ricketts
Roberts
Sage
Smith
Wilson...... Hannah
Windward                                 

If anyone would like to find the missing 7 court records would be a happy girl. They do not appear to have been tried at Old Bailey, could be I've just missed them.    Val
HALL....Lancashire    1700s. ......... London, Middlesex , areas Tottenham, Islington, Marylebone  to 1950.

WILDS......London, Middlsex, Tottenham area .......  1820

COOMBS (E)........London Tottenham, Edmonton......1800s 

BENFORD   Kate    Middx
BOLEY        W.S    Middx
MITCHELL              Middx


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« Reply #67 on: Friday 19 August 11 17:01 BST (UK) »
So still to go is:
George Dean 31.7.99
Charles Tertius Green 31.7.99
Robert Hopkins 31.7.99
Bonni Joseph 3.8.99
John Wilson 2.8.99
Arthur Young 3.8.99

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« Reply #68 on: Friday 19 August 11 18:01 BST (UK) »
I don't know whether these are the right people, but on the 1901 census there is a George T Dean in the prison at Walton on the HIll, whilst in the Test House in Walton on the HIll there is a Robert Hopkins.  I'm guessing that the Test House was some sort of workhouse, but I wonder if it could be a kind of clearing house for ex-offenders too...........

Probably jumping to all sorts of conclusions that aren't true!

Test house: RG13; Piece: 3457; Folio: 126; Page: 23
Prison: RG13; Piece: 3457; Folio: 44; Page: 13

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« Reply #69 on: Friday 19 August 11 20:41 BST (UK) »
How about I ask in the general forum about this address? In the meantime I will have a good look aaaround. Thanks again
HALL....Lancashire    1700s. ......... London, Middlesex , areas Tottenham, Islington, Marylebone  to 1950.

WILDS......London, Middlsex, Tottenham area .......  1820

COOMBS (E)........London Tottenham, Edmonton......1800s 

BENFORD   Kate    Middx
BOLEY        W.S    Middx
MITCHELL              Middx

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« Reply #70 on: Saturday 20 August 11 00:24 BST (UK) »
(Darlington) Northern Echo - 12 May 1899

SOLICITOR IN TROUBLE

At Ashby-de-la-Zouch yesterday, Charles Tertius Green, solicitor, Coalville, Leicestershire, was remanded charged with appropriating to his own use £509, the moneys of a client, and applying to his own use the sum of £275 belonging to the Whitwick Granite Company. Defendant is secretary of the Coalville Conservative Club, and well known locally.
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Leicester Chronicle and the Leicestershire Mercury- 13 May 13 1899.

SERIOUS CHARGE AGAINST A COALVILLE SOLICITOR

At the police office, Ashby-de-la-Zouch, on Thursday, the prisoner, Charles Tertius Green, solicitor, of coalville,  was brought before Mr. George Moore, of Appleby, superintendent Holloway explaining that the prisoner had been arrested on two charges - appropriating to his own use the sum of £500, the moneys of a client named Reast, and applying to his own use the sum of £275 15s. 10d., the moneys of Whitwick Granite Company. -  After the charges had been read, Supt. Holloway asked for a further remand until Saturday next. - The Magistrate remanded the accused accordingly. - The prisoner, who had nothing to say, was then removed. He looked dejected and ill.

The prisoner was for a considerable time secretary of the Coalville Conservative Club. It was known that warrants were issued for his arrest, and considerable interest in his arrival at Ashby was manifest in Coalville, Ashby, and district, where he was well known.
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There's more articles. One of which gives his age at 35 another at 31, names the moneys as belonging to William and George Reast. The thefts took place from September 30 1895 to February 11 1899. The stolen money wasn't spent on himself but "for liabilities for which prisoner became responsible on behalf of his father".  He pleaded guilty.  He was sentenced to five years of penal servitude because, despite his previously good character, his theft represented a gross betrayal of trust that the public ought to be able to place in the legal profession and a man in his position. Then 15 January 1900 he was "struck off the rolls" by a divisional bench of QCs.

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I have a fighting soldier in the Crimean, his family originated from Lancashire, not beeen able to find out much.
So shall be well on the route to him also?
If you can give me a name I can go fishing. But he'd probably have to be quite senior in order to be named in the papers I'd expect.
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Re: Prisoners......glass plate photo...When? List now added.
« Reply #71 on: Saturday 20 August 11 04:14 BST (UK) »
Hi All, I am really finding the Glass Plate Negatives completely absorbing.
As I mentioned in my previous email.In the 1901 Census my Maternal Grandad was a guest of the Crown In Walton on the Hill. When his sheet came out on Ancestry UK 1901 England census, it showed a print out for other relatives so I started my printer up and going. My wife called me for my coffee so after about 30 minutes. I had my Coffee and Biscuit a wee read which I always do.Then soon as the head starts to nod back to my M/C. And here are two sheets of relatives, (NO WAY). There all his fellow naughty boys. Over 150 of them. He is listened as of "own account" and a "News Vendor". he was 17 years old. His name is or was Thomas Edward Lunt and you might have seen about him in different web sites as 3rd Engineer on the S.S.Sagamore. Sunk 3rd march 1917.Rescued by the S.S.Deucalion 12th March 1917. He was one of the only 7 survivors landed at Capetown. He and 4 others had to have their feet amputated due to Gangrene and Frostbite as soon as they landed. He ended up his last operation 10th January 1922 after about 8 other ops having his legs amputataed up to within an inch of his knee joint. Any help with the jail would be most appreciated. Best Regards and Good Hunting Ken Berry
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