Lawrence and Elizabeth DURKIN

[Radcliff]

Free bmd ,
John Vickery to Bridget Durkin,

Burnley registration district,
December 1934,


Lancashire,bmd
John Vickery to Bridget Durkin
Burnley register office or registra attended,
RM/242/218

[mosiefish]

Hi Radcliff,

I think that Mary Durkin was married to a Thomas who was buried in the same grave in 1934 aged 72.    

Sean,

I think the only way forward is to send for the Patrick Durkin birth certificate that Radcliff found.:
Burnley March Quarter 1889 Volume 8e page 211.

I have a sneaky suspicion that they are all registered as McArdle/McCardle or in Patricks case he is entered twice, once as McCardel and also Durkin on the GRO - bear with me on this as it does sound odd I know.   If you view the whole page of names that Patrick Durkin and Patrick McCardel appears on in the GRO (same page) , they all have corresponding entries on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk , apart from there is no mention of a Patrick Durkin born Burnley in that year.    So did both surnames appear on the same certificate, but not as a married couple, hence Lancashirebmd have just used the one?   Clear as mud eh!    

This all started with me looking all the Mary Ann`s born in the Burnley registration district in 1891 (she was 2 months old on the census) and noting down the surnames, I then did the same with Bridget`s (three years) and Patrick`s.  The one common thread was that there was always a McArdle or variation of it showing.  Non of these McArdles appear on the 1891 census nor is there a death as far as I can see.  It just seems very suspicious.

You definitely need that certificate.

Mo

[sdurx]

Radcliff,

No, sadly it doesn't say how long they were married. "Lizzie" is listed as married, but the column about how long the marriage has lasted has been left blank.

Hmm, you might be onto something with the probate - it seems a little odd that her other child Henry didn't get anything (he was alive until 1946), but maybe they had a falling out. I could probably go the the library and have a look at the marriage certificate of Bridget and John Vickery to see if her father was Lawrence. If so, it would be a great find to know that Elizabeth went as Mary. Shall get back to you on that!


Mo,

Intriguing theory - there's also a Henry McArdle registered in Blackburn in 1883 which lends more weight to the idea. I can't imagine why they wouldn't be registered as Durkin, unless as you say Lawrence and Elizabeth weren't officially married... Or, it's possible that they were married in (West) India and for whatever reason they just didn't register as Durkin. I wouldn't know how to go about tracing marriages in such places, though!

In any case, I will do as you suggest and get a copy of the certificate!

[sdurx]

Hi Mo and Radcliff,

Been on the trail of Lawrence's father Patrick recently (found his death certificate, attached) after you helped me to find him and wondered if you'd lend me your opinion on a possible lead.

In the 1861 census there's a family living at 14 Garnet Street, Stockport, Cheshire with a Martin Durkin (b. 1825) listed as the head. Also living there are Lawrence Durkin (b. 1800, Mayo, Ireland) and Bridget Durkin (b. 1801, Mayo, Ireland), listed respectively as Father and Mother.

I think it's possible that Lawrence and Bridget might also be the parents of Patrick (b. 1818), who is in turn father of the Lawrence (b. 1862, Ireland or Blackburn) we were talking about earlier.

ie,

Lawrence Sr. -> Patrick -> Lawrence Jr. who married Elizabeth
                      -> Martin who is in this 1861 census

It would explain the recurrence of names in the family; I know "Patrick" is annoyingly frequent, but "Lawrence" seems to be relatively rare.

What do you think? I'm unsure of a good way to verify this, and would be very grateful if you could once again assist me with your insights!

Sean.

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[stapler40]

Hi all:

I would like you to consider this item: re Lawrence Durkin, born 23 May, 1867 to Michael Durkin and Julia Mara.
I too have been researching the Durkin family of Liverpool and I would submit that this Lawrence Durkin died in 1868. There is a burial record for a Lawrence Durkin, aged 12 months, buried in Fords Cemetery.

Something for you to consider.

Cheers

Stapler40