William Rosser who emigrated to Western Australia in 1859

[badjarning]

Hi All

My great great grandfather was William Rosser born Wales, possibly between 1825 and 1833 (probably closer to 1833), possibly Glamorgan County, confirmed married Rachel Adams at Pontypool, Monmouthsire in March 1/4 of 1856.  William and his family along with another four Welsh families with mining backgrounds emigrated to Western Australia in 1859.  William became the manager of the Wheal Fortune lead mine near Northampton, Western Australia.  He died at Northampton, WA in 1902.  Death certificate says born Glamorgan, Wales aged 77 years at death while headstone says aged 69 years.  I have seen one family tree that suggests he was born at Pembrey, Carmarthenshire, Wales about 1831 and was a carpenter.  I don't think this is my William Rosser as I seemed to be able to track him through census documents as a carpenter remaining in and dying in Wales.  One would think my William would have been an experienced miner of some sort.  I have plenty of material after the family's arrival in Western Australia and will share.   Are any of these details familiar to anyone and are you able to assist me please.

Regards
Chris Willcocks, Thornlie, Western Australia. 

[osprey]

Do you have a copy of the 1856 marriage? There is a transcription here

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monfamilies/trevethinprt.htm

that gives his age as 24, occupation collier, and father as William, a farmer. The owner of the tree that gives the William born Pembrey should get a copy of the marriage cert. Father's name is William of the one in Pembrey, but both are carpenters, and Pembrey isn't in Glamorgan. Also, the one born in Pembrey is still there in 1891 RG12/4498 folio 10 pg 13.

How about this one from 1851?

Llanharry, Glam HO107/2461 folio 312 pg 4
William Rosser head mar 47 farmer of 17 acres b. Llantrithyd
Gwenllian wife 48 b. Llantrissant
Ann dau 26 b. Llanharry
Evan son 24 coal miner b. Llanharry
William son 19 coal miner b. Llanharry
Gwenllian dau 11 b. Llanharry
Elizabeth dau 9 b. Llanharry
Phillip son 4 b. Llanharry

modified to add occupation

[badjarning]

Thanks ever so much Osprey.

I'll get stuck into following that lead down.

Regards

Chris Willcocks

[osprey]

oops!    Just realised I left out the occupation for William - coal miner like his older brother.

How far have you got with Rachel's family? I'd be interested to know where they came from as I have another Rachel Adams in  my Monmouthshire family who was born c. 1774 but died before the 1841 census, so I have no idea where she was born. Haven't found too many Adams in the area.


 

[badjarning]

Osprey you were spot on with your two posts.  I have confirmed that is my William and his family.

Regarding William's wife Rachel Adams below is some info:

In 1851 Wales Census
Pontnewydd St Luke
HO107/2449/301 p15

William Adams   56
Rachel Adams   45
Thomas Adams   23
Solomon Adams   18
Samuel Adams   16
Rachel Adams   14 daughter b Trevethin, Monmouthshire
Sarah Adams   12
Catharine Adams   10
Mary Ann Adams   5
William Adams   3
 
William and Rachel according to Free BMD were married at Pontypool District ref 11a157 in the March 1/4 1856.

http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=24254072&d=bmd_1308003022

Rachael's parents were William Adams and Rachel Davies (have also seen Davis) and were married parish church, Trevethin, Monmouthshire, Wales

http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=1543170

Thanks again all.

[osprey]

thanks for that. William, father of your Rachel, was born in Derbyshire so not likely to be related to my Rachel in Monmouthshire.

[AUZZY]

I a bit confused with the Rosser family.  I am trying to work out which one Alice Haley or Harley married a W Rosser in 1889 Northampton. Western Australia. but as there were a few William Rosser/Roser  not sure if he was a son of a convict or free settler.  Can anyone help please