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Offline r_hanger

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Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« on: Tuesday 05 July 11 08:24 BST (UK) »
Are there any records for doctors in 1800's in Ilminster. ?
Looking for William FRANCIS b Ilminster 1809 son of Richard Francis also a surgeon.

On 1841 census William is married with two children. Surgeon.
In 1852 he marries in Poole Dorset and states he is a batchelor

Any help gratefully received

Rachel Hanger

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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 July 11 08:30 BST (UK) »
On the 1851 census, William is unmarried.
1841 census does not show Condition, so how do you know he was married?! ;D

Oh! And he was born in Ilchester, not Ilminster?

Reference HO107, Piece 1930, Folio 515, Page 20
Market Place, Ilchester

Francis, William  Head  Unmarried  M  42  LWSA Lond MRCS Lond In General Practice  b Ilchester
Pitman, Ann  Servant  F  46
Miller, John  Servant  M  15



1841 census says:
Reference HO107, 960, 1/9, 11
Church Street, Ilchester

Francis, William  M  30  Surgeon
Francis, Eleanor  F  20        Not born in County
Francis, Eleanor  F  1          Foreign
Francis, unknown  F  2 days
Rapson, Jane  F  20  F.S. (Female Servant)
Sibley, Sarah  F  15  F.S.
Noble, James  M  19  Apprentice Surgeon
Taylor, Sarah  F  50  F.S.                           all born in county, except where shown

Eleanor could be his sister? cousin?
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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 July 11 08:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,

In 1859 there is this in Medical Registers

!st Jan. 1859 William Frances of Ilchester, Somerset.  Lic. Soc. Apoth. London 1829. Member of Royal College of Surgeons, England 1832.

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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 July 11 09:14 BST (UK) »
Thankyou both for yur prompt replies


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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 July 11 09:28 BST (UK) »
I tried to follow Eleanor through the census returns - trying to find her father?

The younger Eleanor was born in France, British Subject
Her sister was named Editha.

Both are at a school in Church Street, Ilchester in 1851. (HO107, 1930, 515, 20).
By 1861, Eleanor is married to Joseph Whitby, and Editha is a visitor, in Church Street, Yeovil (RG09, 1643, 22, 37)

No sign of them in 1871?

Editha registered December qtr 1842, Yeovil district?
A Margaret Wyllie Francis was registered September qtr 1841, Yeovil.
Margarey Wyllie Francis died March qtr 1842.
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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 July 11 09:32 BST (UK) »
Thankyou again !

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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 October 11 02:44 BST (UK) »
I wonder if William FRANCIS is the son of Richard FRANCIS, Surgeon and Apothecary of Ilchester, Somerset and Mary ENSOR of Dorset, England?

I'm tracing the ancestry of Richard FRANCIS who resided in Quebec, Canada by 1831, the son of Richard FRANCIS of Ilchester, Somerset and Mary ENSOR from Dorset, England.  The FRANCIS family is said to have originally come from St. Austell, Cornwall.

Thanks kindly.

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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 October 12 16:17 BST (UK) »
Talk about coincidence - I have just found this thread and realise that it is the same family as the thread about Eleanor Martha Francis, which I started just a few days later.

Unfortunately for some reason I am unable to copy the URL of the other thread to here - I get a dialog box telling me I can only post my own transcriptions! (I have news for the un-co-operative software - it IS my own work - or at least the first message is!)

I am pretty sure that the younger Eleanor, Margaret Wyllie and Editha are the daughters of William Francis' brother John by his wife Eleanor Martha Wyllie, who died in 1845. However I can only find John in one census, the 1851. (He isn't the one in Market Harborough in 1841, because that one was still there in 1851, and he was born in Kent.)

Eleanor Jr died in Yeovil in 1869.

There is a death of an Edith Francis in Bath in 1864. Could this be Editha?


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Re: Ilminster Surgeon & GP
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 October 12 18:43 BST (UK) »
BathBMD gives you the ages at death, http://www.bathbmd.org.uk

The Edith Francis who died in 1864 was a baby. There was another in 1866 who was 69, presumably too old.

David