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Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« on: Sunday 03 July 11 08:09 BST (UK) »
Hi, I am struggling to find any record of my great grandfather's birth, his name was Edward Mensforth, son of John Mensforth, soldier in 51st Kings Own Yorkshire regiment in Tasmania. He had a brother Thomas Ralph & sister Ann, both born in Corfu, sister Sarah, born in Sydney, brother John, born and died Tasmania 1840, and Amelia Jane & Agnes, both born in Tasmania. I think his mothers name was Isabella Marvoa but on Edwards Marriage certificate to Maria Fanny White in 1881, he listed his mother as Elizabeth. John was discharged from the army in 1846 and went to SA, Edward may have been born there and not in Tasmania as thought. If anyone has any ideas or information that can help me, I would be grateful.  :-\
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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 July 11 08:53 BST (UK) »
Hello EilHolli
You may already have these, but in the South Australian Register (Adelaide) 20 Aug 1859
DIED - Drowned from the wreck of the Admella Steamer, off Cape Northumberland, on or about the 6th of August, Thomas Rolfe Mensforth, aged 26, eldest son of the late Mr John Mensforth of Adelaide.  Deeply regretted by all who knew him.

1 July 1882 - Deaths
IVERSON - on 25 June, Mellors Rd, Glanville, Charlotte Cecelia Iverson, wife of Captain N H Iverson, and youngest daughter of the late John Mensforth, 51st King's Own Light Infantry, Manchester, England

There is a piece in Feb 1861 reporting on the suicide of an Ann Mensforth, and it mentions her mother Elizabeth??

I'm sorry, none of this helps with your original query re Edward's birth. 

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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 July 11 09:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dazey,
I did have some of that but I didn't know about Charlotte or that Ann was connected to Elizabeth either. Of course it could be that Elizabeth is a form of Isabella though. Thanks for the info, it give s me a new lead to follow up.  :)
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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 July 11 09:33 BST (UK) »
24 May 1881
Henriatha Katrine Iversen
born to Niels Holm Iversen and Charlotte Cecilia Mensforth
Glanville

4 Sep 1876
Charlotte Maud Iversen

23 Jun 1879
Mater Olivia Iversen

Seems that Niels remarried after Charlotte's death to Elizabeth Jane Willcock


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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 July 11 09:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, do you happen to know where Charlotte was born and died? She must have been born in SA as I can't find a record of it in Tas.
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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 July 11 09:52 BST (UK) »
She died in Glanville, South Australia.  But I can't find where she was born.  As she was the youngest daughter do you have a timeframe for her birth?

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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 July 11 10:11 BST (UK) »
Charlotte is buried at Cheltenham Cemetery - aged 31 when she died, so born c.1851

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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 July 11 12:22 BST (UK) »
From the Biographical Index of Sth Australia - not always accurate with detail.

IVERSEN Niels Holm - b.c1837 Copenhagen, Denmark.   Arrived: 1863 on the SEA STARR
occ:  Mariner, residing Glanville, Portland Estate    Rel:  C/E
married (1 of 2) - 28.12.1869 Charlotte Cecelia
children:
Wm  1874
Agnes Eliza Jane  1875
Charlotte Maud 1876
John Holm  1878
Walter Oliver  c1879 - see Dazey's posting, this is a girl Mater Olivia

married (2 of 2) - 10.2.1883
child:-
Geo Victor  1892 - 1948

MENSFORTH  Edward born 11.11.1847 Plymouth, England died 11.8.1930 buried West Terrace Cemetery, SA.
Arrived:  1875 on the NORTH
occupation;  Carriage Examiner,Iron turner
married:  Esther born 1850 died   9.1.1930
children:
Eliz   1868
Joseph 1870
Ed  1872
Wm  1874
Helen  1875
Emma FITZGERALD c1881-1957
G (male) 1883 - 1918
plus 2 sons.

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Re: Edward MENSFORTH, birth in tasmania or SA
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 03 July 11 12:39 BST (UK) »
I see this marriage in Victoria

MENSFORTH  Edward born Launceston married Fanny Maria White in 1881 reg no 225

You  have this marriage certificate, does it say he was born in Tasmania


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