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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #90 on: Friday 17 February 12 16:22 GMT (UK) »
ah but we got our man in the end!!

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #91 on: Monday 20 February 12 12:05 GMT (UK) »
found the missing indexes - one bound volume and one not syaing it was an index!!  now fully sorted from 1538.
missing Rogers for you.
1538 - 1587
bap:  13/3/1575  Dorothy Rogers d/o Saul
mar:  2/12/1574  Saul Rogers = Roose (Ruth?) Marshall

1651 - 1705
bap:
7/12/1653   Mary  d/o William Rogers & of --- his wife
11/3/1654   Elizabeth  d/o William, labourer
13/4/1654  Thomas  s/o Thomas Rogers & Katherine his wife
28/8/1656  William  s/o Thomas Rogers, a soldier & Katherine
19/9/1658  John  s/o Thomas Rogers, a soldier
31/3/1659  Ann d/o Richard Rogers   bur. 27/1/1677
8/7/1666    John  s/o William Rogers, chapman
15/5/1670 Bridgit d/o Richard, chapman (this seems to be an
         occupation - will try and check)
9/3/1672    Richard  s/o Richard /Robert (queried in index)         
         
marr: 
21/1/1655  Luke Hutchinson = Alice Rogers
22/8/1665  Richard Abell = Margaret Rogers
13/11/1687  William Holmes = Mary Rogers

bur:
24/4/1654  Thomas  s/o William,ostler & his wife
2/5/1667  William Rogers, chapman
19/12/1679  Widow Rogers
2/1/1694  jane  w/o John Rogers

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #92 on: Monday 20 February 12 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Diddy,
I wanted to say "thank you" for the information you found on the Stevenson and Rogers families. I appreciate all the effort you have gone to. My family will be impressed when I show them how far back your research has taken us.
Cheers...Prof

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #93 on: Monday 20 February 12 15:48 GMT (UK) »
not quite sure how it will tie in with more recent Rogers but interesting to see.

did wonder where Thomas was soldier. looking up we are back to the Anglo- Spanish War 1655 -1660!!  :o

also found this about Chapman as an occupation;

Chapman / Copeman / Ceapman  1) 13c - 16c Itinerate Trader/Peddler. 2) Merchant - in the 17/18c, before the advent of factories, a Chapman would invest in the raw materials of the cotton, woolen or silk trade, put out the work to spinners and weavers at home on piece-rates, and sell the product for profit - the term later became used for an itinerant peddler of goods in the 19c 

makes sense as l'boro=  hosiery

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #94 on: Monday 20 February 12 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Wow! This is fascinating information on the early Rogers family in Loughborough. You did it again!

I can see how chapman or chapmen played a role with weavers and in the early hosiery industry in the county but the mention of the soldier is also very interesting. I also went on line and it seems to me that if he was fathering children in the mid 1650's in the town perhaps most of the fighting was behind him. That was the post Civil War period of the Commonwealth where Cromwell was trying to subdue the Scots. Our Rogers man might have been a Cromwellian soldier during the last part of the English Civil War and might have fought at the Battle of Worcester and even in Scotland. Charles the First was executed at the end of the 1640's and it took his son Charles up until 1660 to reclaim the throne with Cromwell dying in 1658.

I find it amazing you found the parents of the Dorothy Rogers who died in 1627, born a year after Saul Rogers and Ruth Marshall married in 1574. This means the couple survived the plague year of 1563 during Elizabeth 1 reign.  Dorothy would have been 13 to see the beacons lit in the county to warn of the Spanish Armada in 1588. In all likehood Saul and Ruth were born around 1550 when Henry the Eighth had been succeeded by daughter Mary!

It all makes them come to life being able to match solid records with events in history!. Many thanks again, Diddy.


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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #95 on: Monday 20 February 12 20:14 GMT (UK) »
just found this on A*

Text:
Thomas Rogers, of St. Ives, Cambs., & Catherine Burrowes, of Loughborrow 12 Jan 1651

Book:
Calendar of Wills Proved and of Administrations Granted in the Commissary Court of the Peculiar and Exempt Jurisdiction of Groby, 1580-1800. (Will)

Collection: Leicestershire: - Register of Marriages, 1560-1837

date & names wold fit our soldier Thomas!!  sons we have from 1654
THomas may have come to L'boro with the army & met catherine.

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #96 on: Monday 20 February 12 20:42 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast has them married prestwold - just over the River Soar from L'boro

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #97 on: Monday 20 February 12 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for thinking outside the box! Since we weren't able to find much trace of Rogers in Loughborough in church records for the 1700's could they be in Prestwold? By the way, I figured out how to look at wills on A (don't ask me to do that again on the first try!) and along with Thomas and Catherine that you found, I came across a Richard Rogers of Loughborough marrying an Elizabeth Moore in 1659 it says he was a 'cutler.' A few days ago I found a record of the same marriage and it said it took place in Walton in the Wolds. We found a Richard, son of Richard born in Loughborough in 1672 so that could be his son. Assuming he married he would probably have had children around 1690-1705.

Question: why do you think we can't find Rogers during the 1700's in Loughborough when there were several families who were having sons and were all there in the 1670's in the town? Is the record/ index missing and causing a problem? Just want to make sure that's the case from what you said in an earlier post.

Last, it still seems really odd to me that we have Elizabeth Rogers, who walked with her children and husband to Devon (born early 1770's)with a 'relative' who is a James Stevenson who registers her birth in L in the 1770's, yet no record of her father... then she marries a Stevenson in 1799, or is it just a small world like we thought, Stevensons marrying into to family early and is godfather? The only sign of a Rogers who might have been Elizabeth's brother is a James Rogers born Loughborough in 1767who married Mary Thompson in 1792. Perhaps named for Jams S? Backtracking Elizabeth's father and mother were most likely born around 1745- 1750.

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #98 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 20:06 GMT (UK) »
the bound volume with index i found was 1705 - 1748 - don't think i gave you these:

bur: 8/12/1721 Bridgit Rogers
       26/5/1708 Rd Rogers  (Richard?)

guess the family Rogers could have been just outside L'boro. we are surrounded by villages on all sides and these all have their own PRs - some i have access to - others are in other local libraries and of course all in the Leics record office

this is the list i go by:

http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/leisure_tourism/libraries/library_services/local_studies/family_history/census/parish_registers_library.htm#loughborough

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