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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 28 July 11 20:00 BST (UK) »
I checked the Tiverton Baptist records and it seems these Stevenson's weren't Baptists. There is a record of a Stevenson birth in the baptist records 1828 for a Charles Cross Stevenson but it doesn't match the children of son John (who had Emma) or probable son William. John became the superintendant of the Congregational Church so maybe I can contact the church but it doesn't necessarily help me with the father.

However, knowing that male Stevenson was not living at the time of the 1841 census I did find a William Stevenson who died at Tiverton in 1840. I'm wondering if there is a marriage record for William and Elizabeth in Loughborough. around 1790-1800. I've been focused on birth records but maybe a marriage record might show up.  Maybe this William was born outside Loughborough and come to town to work in the lace industry.

My husband also suggested tracking down the William Cuthbert from the original list of workers who came to Tiverton. That first child of the Bennetts was named for him. I checked and he's dead by 1841 however no death record so before 1837.  I did find a Thomas Cuthbert in the Tiverton census who might be his brother listed as a smith. Unfortuneately he's passed away too before the 1851 census which would have shown his place of birth. Maybe Cuthbert and Stevenson moved into Loughborough together as young men.



 

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #46 on: Friday 29 July 11 10:02 BST (UK) »
Hi, i gave you the marriage of William & Elizabeth some time ago:

William Stevenson = Elizabeth Rogers 7/10/1799 Loughborough

I can check on william cuthbert. also forgot to check 1811 census in L'boro - only lists head of households and number of males/females but might help as nearest to 1816 departure.

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #47 on: Friday 29 July 11 18:25 BST (UK) »
Realized after sending last message, it's William and Elizabeth Rogers that are the couple with their 1799 marriage. I found a death in Diverting for a William Stevenson who died in June of 1840 right before the 1841 census where she is listed as a widow. His birth may well have been 1769 in Loughborough because there is a William recorded. That would make him a year older than his wife.

Thanks for looking into William Cuthbert. He didn't live to the 1841 census in Tiverton either which might make him around the same age of William who would have been 47 when he walked with his family for those 200 miles.

I was sent a link to the IGI and noticed that the Loughborough Parish records of births seem to be missing all entries between 1800 and 1812 which is exactly the time period for those children.


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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 30 July 11 01:05 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s…....Folks.

Has Diddy knows I’m away on
" An International Scout Camp " this week..

But just using the data from my disk drive on Laptop………

1811. Head Count Loughborough. ( Part only )

Fiches  No's DE 667 / 188 / 1 ~2.
Entry No's 1 ~ 535.

Thomas Cuthbert. Trade. …a Smith. 3 Males 2 F/Males.

Richard Stevenson. Trade….Lab. 2 Males. 2 F/Males.
John Stevenson….Trade. Trimmer. 3 Males. 2 F/Males.
William Stevenson.  Trade. Needle Maker. 2 Male. 1 F/Male.
Thomas Stevenson.  Trade. …Breaches Maker.   2 Males.   2 F/males.

M. Hethcote. Trade. Lace fastener. 1 Male. 4.  F/Males.

Thomas Powell. Trade. Grocer. ….1 Male 1 F/Male.
William Powell.   Book Keeper.   1 male.   2 F/Males.

Regarding any Baptisms for a child of the Baptist Faith.
Then Children Did NOT get Baptised until they reached the age of an Adult

We Might get a  “ Notification of birth Record “

MIKE. …….. .Off to my Sleeping Bag time now……. ;)

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Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.


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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #49 on: Monday 01 August 11 06:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the 'head count' for 1811 Loughborough especially when you're obviously so busy. Sounds like a great trip. Looking forward to anything else you find but if it waits until you get back that's fine too.

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 03 August 11 00:48 BST (UK) »
Clarification :~

Head Count 1811 for Loughborough 

The numbers stated are the TOTALS
For Male or F/Males above 20 yrs old within that household
If under 20 then they would have been counted as Boy's or Girls …….

MIKE. ……Still away on Camp …. ;)

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Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 03 August 11 15:32 BST (UK) »
baptism:

William Stevenson 19/5/1769 s/o William & Ann stevenson  L'boro

also found 6 siblings.

so the william on the 1811 could be yours with wife Elizabeth (Rogers) and still have a daughter Eliz not on census.

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 03 August 11 16:03 BST (UK) »
Nice to hear from you again and thanks.

If I'm reading this correctly, you're saying the 1769 William who is the son of William and Ann is the one who married Eliabeth Rogers and the daughter (Elizabeth) happens to be missing from the census.

Also could we eliminate this one? We know that John (the son who goes to Tiverton and ends up being superintendant of machinery at the Heathcoat factory in the 1850's onwards born in 1800) and Elizabeth (who marries William Bennett born 1803) have a mother Elizabeth but this is what I find to be odd.

The official list you sent over that pieced together the list of original workers says that a John Stevenson became superintendant of the Congregational Sunday school. The younger John Stevenson I've just mentioned is active in the Wesleyan chapel and his children are christened there alongside Elizabeth's children in the late 1828- 1840. I've looked at the records. So is there a possibility we are still looking for a John born in Loughborough who is their father and there are 2 Johns?

Sorry to go round and round with this but odd to have what would seem like 2 John Stevensons very involved with 2 different churches. Maybe I should be asking Mike to double check John too on that 1811 census?

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Re: Stevenson of Loughborough born 1803
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 03 August 11 17:05 BST (UK) »
Congregationalist Church in Tiverton is a Grade 2 listed building and was built in 1843 so it sounds as if a superintendant of a Sunday School would be needed after that date. To be a superintendent implies a large number of children. Perhaps they worshiped in a temporary building at that time.

Based on later census John's children christened in the Wesleyan Chapel don't seem to have survived early childhood except one, Emma. Maybe he ended up leaving the Wesleyans and joined the Congregationalists in later life. I'll look again on the web but it looked as if that Church on Chapel Street isn't in operation any more and even the street name has changed.