Dates please - and who is the bride?

[weste]

I think the 2 women mentioned as looking similar are the same person.  Difficult to make out what the photo is unless the one is the bride and one a maid of honour.

[jim1]

Loathe as I am to disagree with China but I think the 2nd. photo is earlier in the decade.
The outfit is too ornate for daywear so I believe she's in evening wear so the normal rules for what's acceptable to wear don't apply.
The neckline is too revealing even for 1912 but as evening wear this was quite usual.
The shape of her skirt,very wide at the bottom was also an early decade style & before I read your post I thought she & the lady on the right in the 1st. were one in the same.
The man standing behind her is her husband,this hand on shoulder pose is typical between husband & wife although you also see it between father & son/daughter.
I also believe the bridesmaid far left is a sibling of the 2 young men at the back.In fact if you put her in short hair she could be a twin of the lad behind her.

jim

[jancis]

I am not an expert and have no specialist skill, but I think there are two families involved in this picture.
I think the elder couple (centre right) are parents of many of the others in the party, however one of the
small bridesmaids 'doesn't fit' the family likeness. Could she be related to the bride I wonder.

I do think that seven of these people are siblings, going most particularly by a very distinctive mouth shape.

I have placed them in what I suppose to be an approximate age order.

What do you think?

Jill

[Yorkslass]

Hello all,

Thanks so much for all your replies - I'm grateful for all input, and it's so good to have all these different "views" of things -

Viktoria - no, I hadn't noticed the ghost, but now you mention it, I can see two!  A lady who is smiling, and an old chap next to her with a beard!  But when I look again, there are three similar "shapes" on the wall behind.... and thanks for your remarks about the similarities between the two ladies. I still think maybe they are the same woman.

Jim - thank you so much for your comments.  I had hoped the second photo was earlier, but they are too unclear, I guess, to be certain that these two ladies are the same.  I was intrigued by the outfit the second lady was wearing.  I'm guessing she must have been fairly "well off" to have needed an outfit for evening wear!  I'm grateful too, for you pointing out the fact that the older gentleman has his hand on the lady's shoulder.  Something else I hadn't noticed!

And yes!  I agree the lady far left does have very similar facial similarities to the two young men.  She could well be Nora Ashworth, who was born in 1888.  Thanks so much.

Jill - you are so good to have gone to the trouble of putting together all these faces. (wish I could do that!)  The mouth shape is, as you say, very distinctive - sort of down turned. The lady with the really big hat, to the left of the "groom" does seem to be the "odd one out", and I'm getting more convinced she is the bride.

I do have a photograph of the "grooms" parents, taken in 1920, with some of their grandchildren, but I can't immediately see a great resemblance to anyone on these photos.

It might help if I posted that?

Thanks again to everyone.

Yorkslass

[chinakay]

I loathe you too, Jim

[BevL]

my tuppence worth:
Bride on left, matron of honour right, bridesmaids far right and next to the bride and the rest young bridesmaids - most probably members of the family.
Kind regards
Bev

[Yorkslass]

Hello again,

Thanks for your reply Bev, and I do agree.  I'm afraid I know nothing about the lady Ughtred married - except she was called Maud Salisbury.

I'm attaching a photograph of the groom's parents, Benjamin and Grace Ashworth, with some grandchildren, which was taken about 1920. 

I don't think these two are on the wedding picture, somehow ..... ?

I'm amazed at how similar the little girls in this photo are to the ones in the wedding pic!

Yorkslass

[terry h]

Gave them a go.......first one

Terry

[terry h]

Second

Terry