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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #27 on: Monday 18 July 11 17:17 BST (UK) »
Well I have just spent a couple of hours looking up Thomas
in the newspaper and I am more confussed than ever.  :)

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #28 on: Monday 18 July 11 21:50 BST (UK) »
I found Thomas aged 17 in 1822 making a possible birth in 1805.

I wonder why he was in Wellingborough and his parents in Denford.?

Elizabeth's marriage in Wellingborough had a Mary Bale as a witness.

I need for you to look this new info and tell me what you think Kristy.
Please.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #29 on: Monday 18 July 11 21:55 BST (UK) »
Reading the article in the newspaper Thomas and the other
people involved were sentenced to death by execution, yet I
could not find any change to the sentence prior to deportation.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 01:04 BST (UK) »
My best guess at the moment is this. When the family got the removal order from Denford in 1818, they went back through Wellingborough on the way. Here Elizabeth would have still had grandparents (Susannah's parents as she was from Wellingborough) and then she married, with Mary as a witness. She is there until 1866 when she dies. Mary kept going to Eaton Socon where she married and died.
Thomas either decided to stay in Wellingborough too, or returned there after going to Eaton Socon, as he was involved in the offence there in 1822 (which resulted in 3 people being hung). He did get his sentence changed to transportation (have this information on Ancestry on my tree) for 14 years I think it was. There is also an article I found on the trial from a paper there which lists all the details about what happened. I think they took pity on the 2 youngest offerders, but the older ones were not so lucky.
I guess the next thing is wether the parents stayed in Eaton Socon, or did they return to Northamptonshire? All the children seemed t be accounted for now, but still no elusive parents!!
I am glad it seems just as confusing and frusterating to you. I have been search for Thomas's parents for 3 years now, and the name changes drive you crazy. I think there are about 5 different versions of Bales once he gets to OZ!!

Have since found a Thomas ball died Eaton Socon 1833 and then a Susannah Ball widow marrying a John Shepherd, widow in Eaton Socon in 1836. looks like this could be it.


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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 11:57 BST (UK) »
Morning Kristy.  :)

Thanks for P.M.

Also for listing the info below. I more than likely missed the sentence
being reduced although I did look from June until August.  :)

I have one problem with Mary being a witness at Elizabeth's
wedding as she would only have been 10.  :-\

I meant to ask what was Thomas senior's occupation.

I think folk here would like a good outcome for you in solving the
mystrey.  :)

Will be in touch.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 19:10 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kristy.

I am linking your other 2 topics on the Bedford Look ups Board
so we can see what other information has been already been
found /dis-counted/verified for you about the family by other
Rootschatters.  :)

It all helps when looking back.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,541163.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,544857.0.html

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 19 July 11 23:26 BST (UK) »
Back to scrolling through Eaton Socon today!! It looks like that could be my Thomas, but unfortunately no leeds as to where he came from. On Mary's or Ann's baptism it lists his occupation as a shoe maker, but on the death record of his son Thomas it lists soldier, so who knows....maybe he was both???

Thanks for linking other topics....hopefully we are getting somewhere!!

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 20 July 11 09:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Kristy.

Thank you for e-mail will reply off the forum.  :)

I have a problem here.

Mary Ann baptism in Denford in 1807 does not give an
occupation of father.

Ann baptism notes him as a Shepherd.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 21 July 11 00:18 BST (UK) »
Sorry for the confusion. From the baptism information you sent through for Ann it lhad listed Thomas as a Shoemaker, but maybe it was meant to be shepherd. This would actually fit better as his son John is also listed in the census as a shepherd in Bedfordshire/Hertfordshire after 1841.