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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 17 July 11 11:50 BST (UK) »
Morning Kristy.

So these are the baptism of Mary & Ann as below.

Denford

25 Dec 1807
Mary Ball to Thomas & Susanna

21 Jul 1817
Ann Ball to Thomas & Susannah, Edited: shepherd not shoemaker

There does not seem to be one for John.

My father in lived in Denford when he married for the 1st time.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 17 July 11 12:02 BST (UK) »
Not sure if we listed these from the Northants Baptism Indexes.

Wellingborough C of E

13 Nov 1801
Elizabeth BALES d of Thomas & Susannah

14 Aug 1803
Thomas BALES s of Thomas & Susannah


Also maybe Elizabeth stayed in the village and had an illegitimate child.
Denford

23 Jul 1820
Sarah d to Elizabeth Ball (base born)

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 17 July 11 12:33 BST (UK) »
I wonder.  :-\

From the Northants Marriage Indexes.

Islip

05 Mar 1827
John CARPENTER otp, bachelor to Elizabeth BALL of Denford, spinster      
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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 17 July 11 13:12 BST (UK) »
On 1851 census in Irchester; a Sarah Bace is recorded, single age 28 born Benford Northants, house servant to a farmer. Someone using Anc* has corrected it to be Ball, but looking at the image it looks like Bale.
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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 17 July 11 23:36 BST (UK) »
Well I think that confirms the Bale/Ball issue. Confirmation of the baptisms of Mary and Ann together with the removal order from the National Archives which lists them as Bale means I definitely have the right family, now all I have to do is find tha elusive thomas!!.
Most of the children seem to have gone with them to Eaton Socon, as I have marriage and burial records for them there. The son Thomas must have ended up back in Wellingborough, as that is where he is convicted. I will go and check the census lists for Elizabeth,as I have another possibility for her as an Elizabeth Bale married in Wellingborough in 1818 and from census records she was born there too (which my Elizabeth was).
I also found a death for a Thomas Ball in Eaton Socon in 1824, but there is also one for Denford in 1833. Not sure what to do about that. From the ages they could both be possibilities, but the Denford one is more likely?!?!?

Census not much help. Elizabeth died 1843 in Islip/Thrapston so still not sure where she was born.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #23 on: Monday 18 July 11 09:30 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kristy.

Which ship did Thomas arrive in Australia on.

From the N.M.I. is this the marriage of ELizabeth ?

Wellingborough

11 Apr 1819
Samuel BURTON otp, bachelor, labourer to Elizabeth BALE otp, spinster   

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #24 on: Monday 18 July 11 09:32 BST (UK) »
If so this family is in Wellingborough (Salem Lane) on the
1841 Census.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #25 on: Monday 18 July 11 09:34 BST (UK) »
They are still  in Wellingborough in 1851. ???

How are you working out the folk you think are yours Kristy.

The Elizabeth dying in 1843 Thrapston Reg District is John Carpenter's wife whose marriage I noted earlier.

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Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« Reply #26 on: Monday 18 July 11 09:58 BST (UK) »
OKay found Thomas departure.

Thomas Bales, Tried 16th July 1822 at Northampton,
sailed on the vessel OCEAN, to N.S.W. , voyage date 22 Apr 1823.

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