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Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« on: Sunday 26 June 11 23:57 BST (UK) »
Hello - I'm new here and have been researching my family for awhile now.  I've done most of it but am stuck on my GG grandfather, Thomas Law. He was born in Dublin, Ireland around 1837.  He married in NZ in Christchurch in 1865 to Elizabeth Bowis.  He was a miner and owned part of a claim in Cullensville and I think Haast.  I know for certain the "Thomas Law's that appear for Marlborough area on the electoral roles etc are my Thomas (esp from 1875).  My problem is that I see a Thomas Law down in Otago, and being a miner, I'm sure he went there first when he arrived in NZ.  There seem to be many Thomas Laws down there - is it mostly the same person with several gold claims?  Could you be on the role for more than one area at the same time?

My second question is I can't find when he came here - perhaps he did the gold fields of Australia first?  If there are any clever people out there with way too much time on their hands  ;D  then I'd love some ideas, help etc.  I do know most of what happened from the 1880s on, it is just the early stuff I'm having trouble with.

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Lynda

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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 June 11 03:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Lynda, and welcome to RC.

From http://www.elections.org.nz/study/education-centre/history/right-to-vote.html

In 1860 the right to vote was extended for the first time - to gold miners. Any male British subject over 21 who held a miner's right (that is, a licence, which cost £1 per year) was entitled to vote without having to enrol.

You will see that for many years, it was possible for a person (only males until 1893)  to be listed on more than one electoral roll.

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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 June 11 03:58 BST (UK) »
Ah... well that explains why there are many listings for Thomas Law - everywhere he had a gold stake, he was a listed voter?  If only I could know he was "my" Thomas Law by knowing when he arrived in NZ.

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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 June 11 07:44 BST (UK) »
Do you know where he is buried? sometimes cemetery records state how long a person has been in NZ

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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 June 11 07:52 BST (UK) »
If you search the OTAGO NOMINAL INDEX
http://marvin.otago.ac.nz/oni/basic.php
you will see the many thomas Law's
so maybe the Otaho ones are different.
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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 June 11 08:05 BST (UK) »
Firstly Althea ... should I say "cousin Althea"?  I am a Berry... from Barker.  You sent me some wonderul information about 4 years back.

Thanks to the above posters for the info - yes there is a grave but no date of arrival.  I wonder did he come alone, with brothers or family??  There are a lot of Law families in the south island and a John Law, who came over in 1856, settled for a time in Marlbourgh with children.  I found that through a newspaper article on his death.  I'll go and check out that site you mentioned Althea.

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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 June 11 08:29 BST (UK) »
If you search the OTAGO NOMINAL INDEX
http://marvin.otago.ac.nz/oni/basic.php
you will see the many thomas Law's
so maybe the Otaho ones are different.
Bye
althea

Yes, many Thomas Laws!!  I suppose I could safely presume that some of those entries might be my GG grandfather?   I also am having trouble this week with www.yesteryears.co.nz - when I try to search it comes up with a google alert and won't search.  I've tried this on three computers and a different ISP addresses so I'm assuming the problem is with that site?  Are there any other passenger listings that are searchable?

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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 June 11 10:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

Lovely area around what was Cullensville in the Mahakipawa Valley. 

photographs click on ID#, especially 0000.900.0763,  at this address
http://exhibits1.museums.org.nz/collection2MHS2/exhibit3/vextitle3.htm

Is this your Thomas Law  or the Publican (see below) buried in Picton?
Date of Burial    29 Oct 1922  Age    85Y

or this one  1891/4544   Law    Thomas    72Y  (as in NZ BDM)?

Working back from Thomas Law the mine manager of the Hibernian Mine, Cullensville late 1880'- 1890's, in the hope of clarifying which Thomas Law could be yours.

5/2/1886  A Thomas Law was supposed to appear in court in Inangahua (could be associated with goldmining)

4/1/1885  A Thomas Law drowned near Naseby  - obviously not your Thomas and this Thomas I believe is the Thomas, brother of Peter and John Law, all of whom were farmers in the Gimmerburn Valley - Rough Ridge area, Central Otago.
1885/170   Law    Thomas    21Y

Marlborough Express, Volume XIX, Issue 125, 12 June 1883, Page 2
Thomas Law, a Publican of Picton, filed a declaration of insolvency

Southland Times , Issue 2778, 22 May 1877, Page 2
LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION. On the application of Mr P. F. Finn letters of administration were granted to the widow of Thomas Law.
1877/563   Law    Thomas    44Y  (as in NZ BDM)


Otago Daily Times , Issue 4004, 16 December 1874, Page 3
A Thomas Law of Caversham, formerely a grocer, now a builder was adjudged bankrupt.


It seems likely that this Thomas Law of Havelock, 11 miles from Cullensville was formerly in Waitahuna, Otago. But he too cannot be your Thomas Law as it is recorded in:-

Tuapeka Times, Volume VI, Issue 279, 5 June 1873, Page 4
MATTHEW HAY has received instructions from the Executor in the Estate of the late Thomas Law to sell by public auction on the Claim, at Havelock, on the above date, at 1 o'clock, One-fourth Share in a 6 Acre Claim, situated at Havelock, and known as Hamilton and Co.'s, together with the Plant complete. Also, 2 Water Races 5 Horses 3 Drays and Harness, complete. Chaff Cutter. Stack of Oats. Stable and Hut, and One-third Share in a Saddle Mare, in foal to Quicksand.  Also, One-third Share in 3 Cows and a number of Articles. NO RESERVE. Terms Cash. see
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=TT18730605.2.8.1&l=mi&e=-------10--1----2--

Tuapeka Times, Volume VI, Issue 279, 5 June 1873, Page 2
NOTICE. ALL Accounts due to and by the Estate  of the late Thomas Law, of Havelock, will be received and paid by the under- signed, on or before the 20th day of June. JOHN PEARSON, Executor. Accounts to be sent under cover, to the care of Mr. Dewes, Waitahuna.
NZ death reg  1873/1981   Law    Thomas    NR (age not recorded)

FOR, SALE. ONE-FOURTH SHARE in a Six Acre Claim, situated at Havelock, and known as Hamilton and Party's. The Plant consists of two Water Races, two Water Wheels, four Horses, one Filly, three Drays, Stables, &c. There are also three Brood Mares in foal to Emperor. The ill health of the Proprietor of the above shares is the only reason for his desire to dispose of it. Further particulars may be obtained by application to the Party, at the claim; or to Mr. F. Oudaille, storekeeper, Havelock. THOMAS LAW.

and then there are :-

6/6/1872  A Thomas Law severed his partnership in the coal Merchants "Low, Law & Robertson" of Coal Creek, Central Otago

8/2/1866  A Thomas Law, of Waitahuna,  was a shareholder in the Canada  Quartz Mining Company which had been formed the previous year.  (probably the one who died in Havelock 1873)

13/2/1862 A Thomas Law signed a "thankyou notice" on reaching Otago in the good ship "Hannah"  see
Papers Past , Otago Daily Times, 13 February 1862, Page 3, Advertisements Column 3 - in the ship's list he has "jnr" appended to his name.

I know the Nelson Museum has a wealth of information and I have had great service from them. There is also the Havelock local Museum (and if you are not a NZ'er don't confuse it with a "Havelock North" Museum). Try also the Marlborough Museum in Blenheim and  Otago Settlers Museum, Dunedin. All have websites and contacts.

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MalNZ
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Re: Thomas Law - Electoral Role etc
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 June 11 10:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Lynda
Great to see you here
Maybe we can hunt some Barker/Berry brickwalls
I have been ignoring my own tree but am full steam looking at each line from this week!! my mid winter resolution  8)

Bye
althea

re the passenger list, look at the resource section at the top of page a full list of searchable databases
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,493441.0.html