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Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 10 July 13 10:10 BST (UK) »
Finally the McNeil tree is growing.
Thanks to the amazing help from Lodger.

I'm puzzled by Alexander McNeil who married Janet Colvin in 1845.
I can find Alexander, on his marriage Cert is says he was a miner from Drumpellier.
On his son James marriage cert James was living at 2 Greenhead, Road Wishaw, his wife Agnes lived at 167 Stewarton Street, Wishaw.
This marriage was in 1886 and Alexander is deceased on the Certificate.
Searching Scotlands people gives me a couple of possiblities but without a purchase of certificate no real answer. Don't mind if I have the right person.
Wonder if there is a headstone for Alexander in 1867-68.
Any further help would be wonderful.
thanks
AR

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« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 10 July 13 15:31 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this is the right one -

ALEXANDER McNEIL, pit fireman, Pather, aged 40 years, married.
Parents - Alexander McNeil & Ann Fleming.
Old churchyard on 9th January 1867.

What do you think? The occupation is right, Pather fits the area, his age is right and his wife is a widow in the 1871 census.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 11 July 13 06:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Lodger,
I think you might be right.
Thanks your help has been wonderful.
With the dates is that a death date or burial date?

Are there other area's that have Churchyard photos?
We are also chasing a McNeil from Kildalton.
Not sure if the two families maybe connected or not.

Thanks
AR

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« Reply #75 on: Saturday 20 July 13 18:55 BST (UK) »
I was wandering around Cambusnethan today and took a few photos in the course of my research. I've eliminated most of the ones I've already seen in Lodger's lists but I wasn't sure if these ones had been covered or not so, just in case they haven't, I have photos for:

MOFFAT & THOMSON
NEILSON & MORISON
DALZIEL & NEILSON
NELSON & FRAME

Let me know if these are of any use to anyone, and apologies if I've duplicated someone's efforts and not spotted them.

I also have a John DALZIEL but couldn't make out the other names so it's probably not much use except that it's pretty old!

Alan


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Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 15 August 13 08:50 BST (UK) »
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help, I have from a book and an obituary a death in 1714 of a James Gourley/ Gourlay/ Gowrley and his wife who was a Weir. From the obituary of his Gr. Grandson in 1870 he was buried in Cambusnethan Churchyard and the stone stated their names and year of death. I ordered the MI books for Cambusnethan but there is no sign of them. Hope someone can help please.

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« Reply #77 on: Thursday 15 August 13 12:27 BST (UK) »
Hello Icon,

You are out of luck I'm afraid, there is, as you say, nothing in the MI book (which was compiled in 1982 - 83) and the parish mortcloths list only begins about 1742.
There may well have been a headstone for this family but very few have survived from that time in Cambusnethan. It may well have been a flat stone which has disappeared into the ground over the centuries, covered by a couple of hundred years of grass and leaves.
There has been much vandalism in this churchyard and many of the sandstone monuments have simply eroded away. Take a look at this photograph, it is number 40/1 in your MI booklet. The inscription was perfectly readable in 1982.

There is also the possibility that your ancestors are buried at the ancient burial ground at Kirkhill. This was the place where the original pre-reformation parish church was sited. It was abandoned mid-17th century but the burial ground continued to be used right up until mid-20th century. The stones there have been subjected to a century of vandalism of the most extreme kind. The biggest  culprit being the former burgh of Motherwell & Wishaw back in the 1960s, who allowed a great many of the stones to be bulldozed into a corner in order to accommodate a sectarian march.

There are some Gourleys buried in this ground but none as early as the date you give. 
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #78 on: Thursday 15 August 13 16:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much, I thought this would be the case. We were hoping to get up this weekend and have a look, there is a stone with JG AM 1719 in the book and I was really hopeful it had been transcribed wrong, I thought it would maybe be the Gourley/ Weir grave in 1714, but maybe that is a bit of a stretch. Thanks agin for getting back to me so quickly.

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« Reply #79 on: Thursday 09 January 14 21:15 GMT (UK) »
I have just come upon this site and have registered this evening. I have seen the offer of pictures of graves in Old Cambusnethan Cemetery. I was hoping that the Barr/Dalziel might be David Barr and Agnes Dalziel my 3 x great grandparents who both died in Wishaw.

Also the Lightbody/Yetts could be my Thomas Lightbody and Agnes Yetts, my 4 x Great grandparents who both died in Cambusnethan in the 1830s. A picture of their graves would be much appreciated.

I have many other ancestors from the North Lanarkshire area and although I was born and live on the Welsh/English border still have a couple of cousins in that area.

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« Reply #80 on: Friday 10 January 14 00:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jamesdon99,

Welcome to Rootschat. Here are the 2 pictures you requested.
The inscriptions read -

"Erected by David Barr and Agnes Dalziel in memory of their children, Alexander, David and Janet".

"Erected by Thomas Lightbody in memory of Agnes Yetts his spouse who died on the 8th December 1831 aged 63 years. The above Thomas Lightbody died 23rd March 1838 aged 77 years. Janet Lightbody their daughter died 29th February 1868 aged 62 years. Euphemia Lightbody their daughter died 16th July 1880 aged 84 years".
There is another inscription on the back of this stone which I will put in the next post, I've used up all the picture space in this one.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.