Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW

[Lodger]

Lastly, plot G499

[ajgemini]

Thank you so much Lodger for the photos. I really appreciate it.

Yes William McIlwraith married Harriet Donnelly daughter of Thomas Donnelly and Sarah Helen Prentice Hyde in G1679.
Harriet McIlwraith died 2nd December 2017, probably buried there too.
 
I understand that cemetery stones also have a life expectancy with the elements and at the mercy of vandals.

Does anyone go to South Dalziel Cemetery? Sarah Helen Guy died 5th January 1888 Motherwell and is buried in South Dalziel. Her son John Guy paid for a headstone. According to Harriet McIlwraith there was a confusion over the death / burial but nothing investigated further.

Thanks for your time
Mandy


 

[Lodger]

Hi Mandy, I have the transcriptions and a list of plot owners for South Dalziel churchyard but the stone for Sarah Guy has not survived, sorry. You are not having much luck with these stones!
John Guy is listed as being a plot owner but no other information is given and there are no burial records for South Dalziel.

[ajgemini]

Hi Lodger,
Not much luck at all with gravestones, thanks for looking.
John Guy has been missing since 1865. Would he have buried his mother close to him or is Dalziel just be a cheaper option. Family story said he paid for his mother's grave, he is still a mystery.

I appreciate what you have sent me, thank you very much.

Happy hunting from sunny Queensland
Mandy

[Lodger]

John Guy has been missing since 1865. Would he have buried his mother close to him or is Dalziel just be a cheaper option.

No, South Dalziel was the parish burial ground, so it was the only option. There was an older, out of the way "Dalziel Parish" burial ground but, by the mid-19th century it was full and only old Motherwell families who already had plots there were allowed to use it. No one by the name of Guy listed in the monumental inscriptions there either.
What do you know about John Guy? Origins? Occupation? The family may have moved here for work, Motherwell was a "boom" town in those days.

[ajgemini]

in a nutshell.
John Guy was born 1840 in England, son of John Guy (Caledonina Railway Police Inspector d. 15 October 1872 Wishaw) and (Ellen) Sarah Helen McKenzie.
He married Annabella Robertson Curr 31 December 1861, Dalziel Lanark.Parents William Curr and Mary Blair died 1863.                                                                                                                  William Curr 1871 census living in Carluke with Annabella and sons Henry McKenzie Guy and William Guy. Both children were registered by Curr grandparents.                                                            Annabella applied for poor relief in 1865 as her husband left her.

Annabella, her father and sons travelled to Brisbane in 1877, changed her name to Anna Bailey and  married John Bridges in 1877, (d.1884), had 3 daughters lost 2 and she died in 1891 in Eidsvold Qld. Sons did well in Qld.

Nothing of John Guy till he pays for his mother's burial.
I assumed he must be fairly close and someone told him of Ellen's death. He may have died in England 1896 no proof. His sister Sarah Jane Guy died in 1931. No family member knew where he was, they assumed he went to US.
Lots of secrets in this family.
Thanks
Mandy