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Offline jmg1414

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Re: Sussex 1851 lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 03 March 11 12:46 GMT (UK) »
I meant to add to the last post that I have Anns family name as Oliver...

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Re: Sussex 1851 lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 March 11 15:22 GMT (UK) »
I noted that you had a James EVANS/Ann OLIVER marriage in 1840.

At one level that looks very credible - there is an OLIVER family at Ashton Green, Ringmer, immediate neighbours of the EVANS family. The OLIVERs were master/notorious poachers, according to your viewpoint, and likely to settle any issues that arose with their fists. One of them (William OLIVER) transported too - theft of wheat at Burwash, during ther hopping season.

However, I have a baptism at Barcombe for Louisa, daughter of James EVANS, lab, and his wife Anne on 20 Oct 1839.

The EVANS family were also associated with Barcombe - the burglary that got two of the brothers transported happened there. It is just across the river Ouse from Ringmer.

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Re: Sussex 1851 lookup please
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 March 11 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Ann and James married July/Aug/Sept 1839 in Lewes my mistake not 1840...

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Re: Sussex 1851 lookup please
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 March 11 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Dear jmg

There is an Ann daughter of John OLIVER UPTON of Ringmer, lab, and his wife Caroline bapt at Ringmer on 15 Apr 1821. Members of the family use the surnames OLIVER, OLIVER UPTON and UPTON interchangeably. She has a younger brother James bapt in 1823, but then her mother Caroline was buried at Ringmer aged 25 on 4 Jun 1824.

You should be able to see whether this is the right Ann from her marriage certificate, as she married after 1837. Her maiden name should also be on all her children's birth certificates.

Previous generations of the family lack baptisms, except that this Ann's father was baptised as a young adult. They might have been Baptists, or they might more credibly just have been a family who did not bother.

This family lived in a house at Ashton Green, Ringmer. The site is now occupied by a house called the Old Black House, but all the current house may date from after their occupation (mostly a Victorian cottage with a 20th century extension, and in the 1950s used by the comedian Cyril Fletcher). I tried to paste below the family info I have from this house file, but it won't let me - may be too long. You could try emailing me at johnkay56 at gmail.com and I will email back the info.






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Re: Sussex 1851 lookup please
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 March 11 05:28 GMT (UK) »
I'm beginning to think this line just might be mine after all - I'm busy trying to find Henry Evans b 1843 birth registration, hopefully that is the link I need.

The 'Hole' surname came from Henry's death record. It may easily have been Ol[iver]. He died in 1938, and my mother, born 1936 remembers him and his wife Alice.