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Thomas Cookson - help please
« on: Friday 24 June 11 09:05 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, only started to search my family tree yesterday, so quite new to this. so far I have

Thomas Cookson married Maud Grimshaw 1906 in Old Fylde Register Office.
He had 2 sons Eric 1907 and Kieth 1908? and a daughter Muriel.

I know he lived in Blackpool and Blackburn, but have very little info on him. I know my grandad Eric and brother Keith owned stonemasons in Blackburn and there's connections towards the Blackpool stonemasons. I'm thinking Thomas had a brother and they split the business.

Wondering is anyone can help with trying to find Thomas' parents I'm really stuck.

Any help much appreciated :)
Mandy

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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 June 11 09:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat.  :)

His marriage certificate should show the name and occupation of his father which will help you find the family in earlier census.  The age of Thomas should also be shown which will help you to search for his birth registration. His birth certificate should show the maiden name of his mother which will help you to find his parent's marriage and also to find his mother's family.


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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 June 11 09:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you.

So the only way I'm going to get anywhere is to buy a copy of his marraige certificate?

I have found it on BMD but it only shows me a little bit of info.

Thank you think I'll get onto buying that  :)

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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 June 11 11:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Yes, for a Register Office marriage you have to buy a copy of the certificate;  church weddings you can sometimes view the Parish registers.

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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 June 11 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Mandy and welcome

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Please see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html


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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 June 11 14:21 BST (UK) »
Here you go to start anyhow :)

1901 Census
7 Charney Road,
Blackpool, Lancashire
RG13/3973/32/19
Josiah GRIMSHAW, 46, Head, Mar, Lodging House Keeper, born Unsworth
Elizabeth Mary Grimshaw, 45, Wife, Mar, born Whitfield
MAUD PRESTWICH Grimshaw, 16, Daug, born Bury
Harry Grimshaw, 14, Son, Apprntice Electrician, born Unsworth
Muriel Alice Grimshaw, 3, Daug, born Blackpool
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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 June 11 14:57 BST (UK) »
Thomas COOKSON is much harder to track down as none have POB as Blackpool in 1901 Census.
You really need the Marriage Cert of Thomas/Maud to find his Fathers name. But if he is the one I think he is it may have no Father on it or a lie.

I think he is the illeg Son of Elizabeth COOKSON born c 1864, Preesall, Lancs
Thomas COOKSON christened 06 Dec 1885, Pulton Le Fyde, Lancashire
Mother ELIZABETH
(Source IGI Extracted)

1901 Census
8 Condon Rd?,
Blackpool, Lancashire
RG13/3971/139/44
Richard AINSWORTH, 38, Head, Mar, Cab Driver/Groom, born Preesall
ELIZABETH Ainsworth, Wife, Mar, born Preesall
THOMAS COOKSON, 15, Son, Builders Apprentice, born Carleton
Cuthbert HAYES, 6, Son, born Blackpool
Mary HAYES, 4, Daug, born Blackpool
William WICKSON, 46, Boarder, born St Michaels

MARRIAGE from Lanchashire OPC;
25 Oct 1899 All Hallows, Bispham, Lancashire, England
Richard AINSWORTH - 37 years Carter Bachelor of Bispham
Elizabeth HAYES- 36 years - Widow of 44 East Topping Street, Blackpool
Groom's Father: Richard AINSWORTH, Deceased, Shoemaker
Bride's Father: Thomas COOKSON, Farmer
Witness: Thomas COOKSON; Sarah Jane COOKSON
Married by Licence by: Geo. Leighton M. A. Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1881 - 1900, Page 32, Entry 63
Source: LDS Film 1526146

********I'd appreciate a second opinion on Thomas's Occp please
(I hope it is Builder not Butcher!)

Trish :)
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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 June 11 15:07 BST (UK) »
Thomas COOKSON is much harder to track down as none have POB as Blackpool in 1901 Census.
You really need the Marriage Cert of Thomas/Maud to find his Fathers name. But if he is the one I think he is it may have no Father on it or a lie.

I think he is the illeg Son of Elizabeth COOKSON born c 1864, Preesall, Lancs
Thomas COOKSON christened 06 Dec 1885, Pulton Le Fyde, Lancashire
Mother ELIZABETH
(Source IGI Extracted)

1901 Census
8 Condon Rd?,
Blackpool, Lancashire
RG13/3971/139/44
Richard AINSWORTH, 38, Head, Mar, Cab Driver/Groom, born Preesall
ELIZABETH Ainsworth, Wife, Mar, born Preesall
THOMAS COOKSON, 15, Son, Builders Apprentice, born Carleton
Cuthbert HAYES, 6, Son, born Blackpool
Mary HAYES, 4, Daug, born Blackpool
William WICKSON, 46, Boarder, born St Michaels

MARRIAGE from Lanchashire OPC;
25 Oct 1899 All Hallows, Bispham, Lancashire, England
Richard AINSWORTH - 37 years Carter Bachelor of Bispham
Elizabeth HAYES- 36 years - Widow of 44 East Topping Street, Blackpool
Groom's Father: Richard AINSWORTH, Deceased, Shoemaker
Bride's Father: Thomas COOKSON, Farmer
Witness: Thomas COOKSON; Sarah Jane COOKSON
Married by Licence by: Geo. Leighton M. A. Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1881 - 1900, Page 32, Entry 63
Source: LDS Film 1526146

********I'd appreciate a second opinion on Thomas's Occp please
(I hope it is Builder not Butcher!)

Trish :)
Hi Trish he was a stonemason see my eariler post
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Re: Thomas Cookson - help please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 June 11 15:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks MargP,
Yes I realised that. I had read your post to get his POB and age and then I searched.
I had also just started to look for them on that Census too.
There is no Thomas occp Stonemason in 1901 and this is the closest One I could find.
A Builders Apprentice could easily go on to be a Stonemason.
Thats why I wanted someone to search the Census to check the Occp
Cheers,
Trish

This looks like the right Family considering the Witnesses to the 1899 Marriages names;
1891 Census
Cottam Hall,
Carleton, Lancashire
RG12/3457/127/15
Thomas COOKSON, 65, Head, Mar, Farmer, born Preesall
Grace, 48, Wife, Mar, born Pilling
ELIZABETH, 27, Daug, Single, born Preesall
Thomas, 20, Son, Single, born Carleton
Sarah J, 16, Daug, Single, born Carleton
Cuthbert, 14, Son, born Carleton
William, 11, Son, Scholar, born Carleton
Margaret, 11, Daug, Scholar,  born Carleton
John, 9, Son, Scholar, born Carleton
Robert, 9, Son, Scholar, born Carleton
Matthew, 6, Son, Scholar, born Carleton
THOMAS, 5, GRANDSON, Scholar, born Carleton
John Cookson, 74, Brother, Widower, Living on Own Means, born Winmarleigh

2 sets Twins. Possibly 2nd Marriage for Thomas Snr also given Graces age.
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