Can someone read place of birth?

[LoesLamb]

The clerk dealing with the England Census forms in 1911. Adding the numerical codes for occupation and birth place for statistical purposes.
636 Londonderry Resident
Loes

[annclare]

Could it be Kildarra a townland in Bandon PLU -it is between Cobh and Bandon?

annclare

[celtic liberty]

Did you have a look at the web site www.logainm.ie it is a brilliant site for townlands and place names in Ireland with lots more useful information.

If you go into it go into Cork and you can choose the townlands, more than 5000 of them or baronies, electoral divisions, parishes.

It is a great resource.  You might have some luck in discovering the right name place.
 
Mary
Celtic Liberty

[LoesLamb]

Could it be Kildarra a townland in Bandon PLU -it is between Cobh and Bandon?
annclare

I found the exact words from my second source (English, so forgive him).
"I beleive that they came from the town of Brotherhue just near Cork (Cobh in the Irish gaelic)as there is suggestions that Daniel (Johns father) came from there, but I'm not certain of this."

Did you have a look at the web site www.logainm.ie it is a brilliant site for townlands and place names in Ireland with lots more useful information.

If you go into it go into Cork and you can choose the townlands, more than 5000 of them or baronies, electoral divisions, parishes.

It is a great resource.  You might have some luck in discovering the right name place.
 
Mary
Celtic Liberty

Wow! That's brilliant indeed. With the Gaelic names too ... first one that stared me in the eye: Cill Rois. That site will keep me busy for a while, thanks!

I can just hear them at the kitchen table in 1911 ... "Dad, how do I write that? Just say it again!"

Loes

[celtic liberty]

That's good. 

Just keep in mind Boherbue is not near Cobh.   Cobh was the port ( formerly known as Queenstown) that most Irish people emigrated from to go to England or US.
Sometimes because people left from Cobh it was assumed that they came from there.

Boherbue is North West Cork and Cobh is South East Cork by the coast. They are
probably 45 or 50 miles apart.

It is frustrating when you can't find the exact parish or townland that ancestors came from!!!

Enjoy browsing.

Mary
Celtic Liberty

[LoesLamb]

I knew from the start the Boherbue and Cobh in one sentence is very odd. Boherbue sounds so specific, on the other hand, Cobh confirmed what my husband was so sure of.

It's not easy to find living descendants with a name like that. The gt grandchildren I met seem to know nothing more than just the name of their own grandparents. But I got a new lead, a granddaughter who had a small tree on ancestry in 2007. Now it's a matter of finding her ...

Thanks to all for the suggestions, maybe even the "ignorants" will remember if I throw some names at them.

Loes

[bulgaria71]

If you showed more of the actual form, you might get more suggestions.  If it is a census form you would have some kind of place name to start from and you might be able to work out the writing from other writing on the page.

[LoesLamb]

Well if it helps ... Hope it's not to big.

I've been in touch with another member of the family, a granddaughter, born long after his death. She said "I think he came from Cork".

Loes

[LoesLamb]

I have new information.

A grandson of John Collins, born in 1929. Abt 1931 his parents took him to Ireland. They stayed on a farm in (county?) Cork with an uncle (a brother of John) and two sons.
He thinks the family had been uprooted because of the troubles, and didn't originally come from there. It could be possible they came from the North and moved South before or after Ireland was divided. A pity he has no names.
John himself or sons of his had been involved in, or at least strong supporters of the Sinn Fein movement in Manchester. John himself had died before 1919.

So John's place of birth might have been Kilrea after all.
And it could have been his children telling their children about family in the Cork area that caused the confusion.

Loes