Sarah HILL - where did you go?

[louisa b]

Sarah HILL was a witness at 2 weddings in Tasmania

1. 19 Jan 1857 St Joseph's RC Launceston (bride Mary HILL, age 25,had arrived 1 Feb 1854 per 'Sir Alan McNab' age 18 NP Co Clare - yes discrepancy in age; groom James Bernard ATKINSON aka James BREE)

2. 9 April 1861 St Joseph's RC Launceston (bride Julia HILL age 25, arrived 27 Jan 1857 per 'Great Tasmania' on application of Mary HILL, NP Co Clare, with Anne HILL)

She is also said to be the godmother of Sarah CULLEN, daughter of Anne HILL, who was born in Launceston 7 July 1858 (this is on a tree on r*web; a very kind person looked at the baptism records in Hobart but was unable to locate this despite having looked at the correct reels)

I have looked at marriages and deaths for a Sarah Hill after 1861, marriages of ___HILL to Sarah ____before 1857, arrivals and so on, but nothing seems to make sense.
I had thought that she would be the sister of Mary, Julia and Anne, or possibly their mother or cousin? or even completely unrelated....
I have also checked through all the births of the children of Mary Julia and Anne, but they were all registered by one or other parent.

just to summarise so people don't waste their time looking at things (but bearing in mind I may have dismissed something that I shouldn''t have!!)

marriages
HILL 1867 to Arnold Aneswearth - this is the 2nd mariage of Sarah HILL nee BALE
HILLS 1870 to William BAIN Lau. age 19 born ~1850 seems too young
HALL 1872 to John DONELLY full age, dealer's widow; Primitive Methodist
William HILL to Sarah SMITH 1852 United Church of ENg and Ireland
deaths
1864 age 64 born England
1869 age 76 born England
1869 age 26 farmers daughter - seems too young

any ideas on where to go from here greatly appreciated

oh yes, forgot to say, I don't know the parents of Mary, Julia and Anne or their village of origin in Clare- rcently got the 1911 death cert for Julia (O'Loughlin) and place of birth states Ireland..aarrgghh!! the only thing that I recently came across was that the will of Julia's husband Martin has Michael BREEN of Karoola(Tas) as one of the executors, and he was on the 'Great Tasmania' with his family and the HILL sisters - ??connection

regards
Lou

[tropicalj]

It is possible  she went to mainland Australia, but without  any idea of herage and parent details  it is going to be difficult

I see this marriage in Victoria

only one that leaps out as a possibility being from Ireland


HILL  Sarah born Tipperary married John CHUGG born Devonshire in 1877 reg no 58

CHUGG Sarah died in 1919 aged 65 at Arm, Victoria reg no 58
father John Hill mother Fanny Ardle
please  note  the registration numbers are correct first time I have encountered such a coincidence


So  that  information  would rule her out  as she was only born in 1854c

Jenn

[louisa b]

Thanks for looking Jenn
that is a weird coincidence with the reg numbers!
 perhaps I should have added that approx year of birth for

Mary 1830
Julia 1836
Anne 1837

[louisa b]

a very long shot, but could someone please give me any background on this woman who died in Victoria (of interest to me b/c I suspect that the mother of Mary, Julia and Anne may have been named Mary, because Julia and Mary both named their first daughter Mary)

Sarah RODDICK d. Mven 1891 age 80 # 16292
father Thos HILL
mother Mary ROBINSON

thanks again
Lou

[matthewj64]

She is also said to be the godmother of Sarah CULLEN, daughter of Anne HILL, who was born in Launceston 7 July 1858 (this is on a tree on r*web; a very kind person looked at the baptism records in Hobart but was unable to locate this despite having looked at the correct reels)

Have had some luck finding this 

[cupoflife]

a very long shot, but could someone please give me any background on this woman who died in Victoria (of interest to me b/c I suspect that the mother of Mary, Julia and Anne may have been named Mary, because Julia and Mary both named their first daughter Mary)

Sarah RODDICK d. Mven 1891 age 80 # 16292
father Thos HILL
mother Mary ROBINSON

thanks again
Lou

Does this help in any way to clarify?
The Age 3rdOct1891 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/193403943 (several similar notices)
RODDICK. — On the 2nd October, at the residence of her son-in-law, Mr. T. Fraser, Wattte Tree-road, Malvern, Sarah, the beloved wife of Mr. James Roddick, in her 81st year.
Death and Funeral notice http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8660597

The Age 5thOct1891 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/193411058
RODDICK.— On the 2nd October, at Malvern, Victoria, Mrs. James Roddick, in her 81st year, the beloved mother of Mrs. Wm. Langmuir, Monowai, Williams-road, Hawkesburn, Victoria, and Mrs. Charles Musker, Timaru, New Zealand. New Zealand papers please copy.

Is this a daughter of the above Sarah?
The Age 30thDec1905 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/199425134
RODDICK.—On the 29th December, at Malvern, Janet Armstrong, daughter of the late James and Sarah Roddick, aged 64 years.

[cupoflife]

It is possible  she went to mainland Australia, but without  any idea of herage and parent details  it is going to be difficult

I see this marriage in Victoria

only one that leaps out as a possibility being from Ireland


HILL  Sarah born Tipperary married John CHUGG born Devonshire in 1877 reg no 58

CHUGG Sarah died in 1919 aged 65 at Arm, Victoria reg no 58
father John Hill mother Fanny Ardle
please  note  the registration numbers are correct first time I have encountered such a coincidence


So  that  information  would rule her out  as she was only born in 1854c

Jenn

Just adding the death notice on this Sarah CHUGG (nee Hill)

The Argus 25thJan1919 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1422838
CHUGG (nee Hill, late Port Fairy). —On the 23rd, January, at her residence, 2 Sargood street Toorak, Sarah, dearly beloved wife of John Chugg and loving mother of William, May, Annie and Agnes. Interred 24th inst. Our loved one sweetly resting.
Also http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155224310
Bereavement Cards: http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1426072

[louisa b]

Matthew - absolutely brilliant - you've done it again - thanks so much 

cup - I did end up looking at Sarah Roddick at some point - she was born and married in Scotland; and I think that, if Sarah Hill, marriage witness and sponsor of Sarah Cullen was indeed the sister of Mary, Anne and Julia, then her father is Thomas (see other thread) - many thanks for your input

[louisa b]

a query - what is the word between the names Charles Cullen and Ann Hill on the baptism record??